Maybe someday

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Do you have a link? I can't find it.

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I mean, with the fediscovery project, people can make centralised applications from fediverse data (people who opt in) this makes indexing and other stuff that works better centralised possible.

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But when a non-expert uses the term, its quite clear what they mean by it.

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Agreed, the Voyager app for lemmy is the GOAT.

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Well, its definetely possible on activitypub. Every "app" built on the atprotocol takes data from a relay's firehose and then indexes it and does all the algorithm stuff. There is a project (https://www.fediscovery.org/) that will let people build centralised apps with fediverse data. Although, I could just make an algorithm that looks for keywords a user may be interested in, in the posts database and show it to them, it just wouldn't have every post to its disposal.

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They chose the app specifically because its chinese, they still have every other tiktok clone, like clapper (lol), snapchat spotlight, youtube shorts and instagram reels.

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I guess normal people love the algorithm

The TikTok algorithm was/is (guess it’s back up, but not going back after the Trump messaging) really good about picking smaller niche videos. I had never really thought to get into spinning my own wool until I saw people working with dog hair brushes to card. Lots of recycled/punk/broke bitch crafts, which is a good way to glue me to the phone.

I think algorithms can be good, there just isn’t much incentive to make them good. TikTok has really good discovery features, but it also wants to show you Family Guy clips next to video game footage so that you’ll shut your mind off and buy something.

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While I like the logo, I also realize that the logo also evokes blind hatred from people. Unfortunately, you only have to mention the color scheme, which for many is like a declaration of war.
Sick world

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In art history, literature and cultural studies, Orientalism is the imitation or depiction of aspects of the Eastern world (or "Orient") by writers, designers, and artists from the Western world. Orientalist painting, particularly of the Middle East,[1] was one of the many specialties of 19th-century academic art, and Western literature was influenced by a similar interest in Oriental themes.

Critical studies

Edward Said

In his book Orientalism (1978), cultural critic Edward Said redefines the term Orientalism to describe a pervasive Western tradition—academic and artistic—of prejudiced outsider-interpretations of the Eastern world, which was shaped by the cultural attitudes of European imperialism in the 18th and 19th centuries.[20] The thesis of Orientalism develops Antonio Gramsci's theory of cultural hegemony, and Michel Foucault's theorisation of discourse (the knowledge-power relation) to criticise the scholarly tradition of Oriental studies. Said criticised contemporary scholars who perpetuated the tradition of outsider-interpretation of Arabo-Islamic cultures, especially Bernard Lewis and Fouad Ajami.[21][22] Furthermore, Said said that "The idea of representation is a theatrical one: the Orient is the stage on which the whole East is confined",[23] and that the subject of learned Orientalists "is not so much the East itself as the East made known, and therefore less fearsome, to the Western reading public".[24]

In the academy, the book Orientalism (1978) became a foundational text of post-colonial cultural studies.[22] The analyses in Said's works are of Orientalism in European literature, especially French literature, and do not analyse visual art and Orientalist painting. In that vein, the art historian Linda Nochlin applied Said's methods of critical analysis to art, "with uneven results".[25] Other scholars see Orientalist paintings as depicting a myth and a fantasy that did not often correlate with reality.

Orientalism - Wikipedia

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Yeah i dont think that people saying "China is kinda based" are trying to appropriate chinese culture from the perspective of a culturally and racially superior western hegemonial empire. Quite to the contrary actually.

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Sorta, since those from the other side don't really know if that person is a non-expert or a domain expert from just a post, which is even more so here in Lemmy when it comes to Technical subjects because there is a much higher proportion of Techies around than most other Social Media.

Also, for a domain expert used to using the term "algorithm" for far longer than the common population has even heard it and started using it, it just feels wrong when people misuse it, so it's pretty natural to want to correct the way others use it.

Also it makes sense for the domain experts who have been using that word from well before it was coopted by the Media, to be the ones with the strictly correct definition of the word.,

Personally and from personal experience I think it's a thankless fight one is bound to lose - spoken languages are what the masses make it be, not what a few individuals are used to - but that doesn't make people trying to correct the use of the word wrong.

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Red note just added a feature that lets you translate any comment to English (or presumably the local language of your phone number) . Online reviews and Airbnb have done this for a long time. It's a simple yet amazing feature, one that will really remove barriers to appreciating different cultures. I would love to have it here so that everyone can speak their native tongue and others could appreciate it. I always want to know what the French and German communities are up to (those are the most common other languages I see).

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You're missing the important factor of the cultural zeitgeist

People who flocked to RedNote weren't just going there for an alternative to TikTok

They were specifically going there because the US government said "you can't go on the Chinese App!" so they said "Oh yeah? I'm gonna find an even MORE Chinese app to hang out at!"

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Gotta second this. Especially if the growth is sudden. It's very difficult to integrate newer users into the existing culture.

There are merits to being a smaller community.

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I was mistaken, it was not opensourced - there was a whitepaper on a recommendation system from tiktok's parent company bytedance, and everyone just assumed it was the tiktok recommendation algorithm when it was published.

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If I understand correctly, that only works with data publicly available (or at least available to 3rd party instances). But there are going to be metrics that fediverse platforms simply don't make public or even track.

for example: i dont imagine that peertube (or even loops) makes public who viewed which videos, when, for how long. and it'd be a huge privacy issue if they did. Even tracking things like who-liked-what are the kinds of things that a 3rd party probably shouldn't be able to just check.

without these kinds of insights, it'd be hard to make a good recommendation algorithm, because you can't really tell how an individual is interacting with content.

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Whatever the reason, navigating that is still more complicated than navigating Lemmy or Mastodon

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They still have to sell.

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It's just colors, if colors evoke blind hatred in someone, I likely wouldn't want them around me anyways. It looks to me like an interlinked web of different nodes. Which seems to be a pretty accurate representation of the hosting and federations.

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Hey thanks for the correction - my mistake!

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You mean they signed up for an app that actually works and generates a feed for you vs one that doesn't do either of those things?