The Queensland Greens might pull off two seats, if everything goes right on postals and declaration votes.
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The Queensland Greens might pull off two seats, if everything goes right on postals and declaration votes. That’s a shocking result considering the circumstances, there’s never going to be better conditions for them than a tired Labor government losing. #qldpol
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They aren’t my party, but I do wish them well, and one of the well-wishing thoughts has to be for them to do a bit of introspection. For nearly my whole adult life they’ve been ‘sure we’re ten to twelve percent now, but we’ll break out to heaps of seats next election, watch’. Then the election comes and it’s ten to twelve percent. #qldpol
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@liamvhogan lol yeah no matter what they do and/or don’t do, they always have polled about the 10% mark everywhere in the country, and I suspect they always will.
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@liamvhogan I am shocked they have done so poorly. I thought they had good support in inner city Brisvegas?
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@vwdasher they’ll win Maiwar and if all the votes go right South Brisbane. But even winning both of those will be a very very bad result.
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@liamvhogan @vwdasher they also lost 2 seats in the People's Republic of Canberra last week
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@liamvhogan I think they might make the counter argument that it's bad circumstances -- they'd almost definitely vote to support Labor in a hung parliament situation so if people really want a change of govt, not a good time to vote for the alt-left party.
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@akent I think they will make that argument, and it’s an excuse
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@liamvhogan @akent they don't have to make any argument, the Labor position is that they will never ally with the "greens political party" so this is Labor's shit to eat. Nom nom nom.
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@liamvhogan @akent oh yeah for sure, there should be more of it. The people responsible never eat the shit tho, they roll along with enormous pay packets.
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@liamvhogan Current count on ABC has the overall result for the Greens a swing of 0.1%, so basically while there are swings in particular seats, overall it is the status quo. On top of that, LNP changed preference recommendations to put ALP above the Greens which makes it much harder than last time. But also, I don't think a Labor Government losing is necessary their best position - people who really don't want one major to win tend to flock to the other major and don't trust in preferences to do the job.
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This kind of thing is unedifying. ‘We’d have done better if nobody campaigned against us’. Come on #qldpol
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@liamvhogan I think the headline is a bit of a distortion of the actual comments there, which I think are a fair observation. as a Greens person myself a lot to think about from this election but certainly I'm continually frustrated as someone who is also heavily involved in several unions that the ALP would rather spend resources campaigning against the Greens rather than for anything in particular. I'm wondering what effect all of this punching-left will have in future elections
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@burgerdrome is the movement growing though. There’s a recognised way to measure that, and it’s the number of people voting for it
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@liamvhogan yes to be clear I don't disagree at all. it sucks to see that the message isn't motivating for voters. just venting a frustration about needing to fight a war on two fronts all the time
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@burgerdrome for me I’d like to see the Greens take a much more solid role at the left of the spectrum. It’d be healthy and stabilising. But for that to happen they need to be more competent than they are at partisan organising.
My frustration is this kind of excuse-giving, which would be unacceptable from a major party leader after underperforming. As to the war on two fronts, well, that’s just the logic of the electoral path, there’s no getting around campaigning
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@liamvhogan yes completely agreed, there is a frustrating amount of partisanship internally
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@liamvhogan @burgerdrome Liam arguing for Rhiannonites, I never thought I'd see it.
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@ben_hr @burgerdrome say what you like about Lee Rhiannon, she hates losing