The Queensland Greens might pull off two seats, if everything goes right on postals and declaration votes.
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@liamvhogan Current count on ABC has the overall result for the Greens a swing of 0.1%, so basically while there are swings in particular seats, overall it is the status quo. On top of that, LNP changed preference recommendations to put ALP above the Greens which makes it much harder than last time. But also, I don't think a Labor Government losing is necessary their best position - people who really don't want one major to win tend to flock to the other major and don't trust in preferences to do the job.
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This kind of thing is unedifying. ‘We’d have done better if nobody campaigned against us’. Come on #qldpol
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@liamvhogan I think the headline is a bit of a distortion of the actual comments there, which I think are a fair observation. as a Greens person myself a lot to think about from this election but certainly I'm continually frustrated as someone who is also heavily involved in several unions that the ALP would rather spend resources campaigning against the Greens rather than for anything in particular. I'm wondering what effect all of this punching-left will have in future elections
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@burgerdrome is the movement growing though. There’s a recognised way to measure that, and it’s the number of people voting for it
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@liamvhogan yes to be clear I don't disagree at all. it sucks to see that the message isn't motivating for voters. just venting a frustration about needing to fight a war on two fronts all the time
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@burgerdrome for me I’d like to see the Greens take a much more solid role at the left of the spectrum. It’d be healthy and stabilising. But for that to happen they need to be more competent than they are at partisan organising.
My frustration is this kind of excuse-giving, which would be unacceptable from a major party leader after underperforming. As to the war on two fronts, well, that’s just the logic of the electoral path, there’s no getting around campaigning
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@liamvhogan yes completely agreed, there is a frustrating amount of partisanship internally
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@liamvhogan @burgerdrome Liam arguing for Rhiannonites, I never thought I'd see it.
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Liam :fnord:replied to Ben Harris-Roxas last edited by
@ben_hr @burgerdrome say what you like about Lee Rhiannon, she hates losing
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@ben_hr @burgerdrome [glug glug glug, post the meme]
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@liamvhogan @ben_hr @burgerdrome I saw something that suggested that green vote had actually increased but not necessarily in the seats that were in play for them
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@stufromoz @liamvhogan @burgerdrome as a former Greens member, I find it hard to how the vote could ever get above 10% (marked inner city variation notwithstanding) with current party governance.
So once again I find myself in that most unpleasant of circumstances: agreeing with Liam.
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@ben_hr @stufromoz @burgerdrome oh I’ll do it for goodness sakes. Have to do everything myself around here
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@liamvhogan @ben_hr @burgerdrome the real issue is the fact we still have winner only single seat electorates, limiting the possibility of smaller parties ever getting more than a toehold
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@stufromoz @ben_hr @burgerdrome look, I say this kindly, that’s more excuse-making. The Greens face the same challenge of breaking out of 10-15% in upper houses and the Senate as well.
You don’t hear the Teals complain about single-member electorates, because the Teals win
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@liamvhogan @ben_hr @burgerdrome the Teals won specific seats because they targeted areas that were not being represented well by their elected representatives. I have no doubt that if the Greens party decided to do similar pin pointed targeting of specific seats, with funding for them, they could do better federally. They manage to do it well at the state level, and it’s only a matter of time before Albo’s seat turns green. But it would need a better candidate than they have fielded in the past
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@liamvhogan @ben_hr @stufromoz @burgerdrome I can't begin to tell you how gratifying it was to see the Brisbane Lions adopt the trademark policy of the 2024 Sydney Swans: to keep it close in the first quarter then blow the socks off their opponents in the second. Pic related.
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@thewetmale @ben_hr @stufromoz @burgerdrome this is extraordinary eggsposting
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@liamvhogan @ben_hr @stufromoz @burgerdrome Thanks, Hogan. I may be watching #AFLWLionsSwans and having some feelings.
