How do we get "normies" to adopt the Fediverse?
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to AterNox last edited by [email protected]
@AterNox @dch82 blocking and reporting work fine.
However, people from corporate social media won't report posts because in their experience, it either doesn't get taken seriously or the admins ignore it. Corporate social media sites don't exactly act on reports in a timely manner.
I'm on my own instance, I moderate for myself. I don't want slurs to exist on my instance at all. However, if I don't see them with my own eyes, I cannot ban the user.
PS. I'm talking about banning users that are harassing others on the instance level. These are user actions. I am an admin. I run my own instance.
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@[email protected] @[email protected] So Mastodon not have a wordlist you can populate that "removes" posts with the keywords you provide? It took me a while to find it in Misskey, works like a charm,
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[email protected]replied to BeAware :fediverse: last edited by
Iām confused, do you mean like automated enforcement rules/algorithms like big SM has? I.e. if user gets reported for breaking Y rule X amount of times ban user for Z amount of time and forward to admin for further action?
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to [email protected] last edited by [email protected]
@cm0002 no, I want automated reports.
A user using the n word, full on with the hard R, isn't gonna be a good post. It should be automatically reported to me so that I can judge context and take action.
If a user doesn't report it, I won't see it.
I'm on my own instance, I am the user.
If I don't report it, nobody sees it.
That's dumb.
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[email protected]replied to BeAware :fediverse: last edited by
We need automated reporting.
Iām fine with auto REPORTING, but the actual moderation needs to be a human. Auto moderation is bad. It gets things wrong. Itās how I got banned from both twitter (calm down, this was back in 2018 before it was an elon owned nazi cesspool), and reddit.
On twitter I saw a funny video that was posted, and I replied āAw man, that killed meā.
I was banned for āinciting death threatsā
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to [email protected] last edited by
@Lost_My_Mind yeah, just reporting.
I want to do the actual judgement, but if I don't know the post exists, I can't judge anything and it makes me so mad that possible racist stuff can exist on my instance without my knowledge because I havent "seen" it.
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[email protected]replied to BeAware :fediverse: last edited by
Ah, makes sense now, that is dumb. I can totally see why they would have issues with automated enforcement, but what you described I donāt see why anyone would be against it lol
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@[email protected] Ahh so the fix is for you is to have a word list that you write a script that updates all your users when ever you make a change? Easy. Server side script done. No need for external admin support.
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@AterNox yeah! Let me go learn how to program right fast!
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[email protected]replied to BeAware :fediverse: last edited by
Definitely. Back when I used FB and Twitter I learned that reporting is entirely useless. You just end up with some automated message about how they reviewed it and it ādidnāt violate their community standardsā with some lame verbiage like āwe realize this isnāt the outcome you were looking forā, regardless of how ridiculously blatant whatever you reported was. On the flip side, I was banned for clearly misinterpreted or brigaded comments, and then an appeal just gives you the inverse where they reviewed it and whatever you posted was definitely terrible and they ārealize this isnāt the outcome you were looking forā.
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We have instancewide admin blocks, so the accounts that would be automatically reported can be blocked preemptively, no report needed. That can be both good and bad... but pick a sheltered instance and you shouldn't get harassed. How would automatic reporting even work? I don't recall, but doesn't the admin interface let you specify keywords that alert the admins in a post? Is that what you mean?
CC: @[email protected] @[email protected]
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Unfortunately not. Mastodon has no such thing. It does have filtered words for normal users. However, that doesn't do anything besides hide posts that contain the filtered words, nothing more.