"'People are struggling; more and more people are moving into RVs.
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"'People are struggling; more and more people are moving into RVs. We’re trying to survive outside of living in tents because tents are killing people,' LaRock said. 'We need to survive. We can’t afford housing.'"
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RV dwellers in northeast Calgary issued 1-month permit but may soon be forced to move
https://globalnews.ca/news/10822925/rv-dwellers-calgary-one-month-permit-forced-to-move/ -
Why are tents killing people? Is this about fires? I can't even afford the gas for a motor home.
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@cy it doesn't say, but I assumed frostbite/hypothermia
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Tents protect people from that though, by keeping whatever blankets they have from getting wet.
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@cy not in a Canadian Prairie winter, friend. And there's lots of fires from warming, too, but the extreme cold comes first.
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There are arctic sleeping bags that go to -40. The problem is not keeping warm. It's being denied the means to do so. I feel for people in RVs getting wrongfully persecuted, and they absolutely have every right to stay there, but Jesus man, if you can afford a motor home, you can afford a tent setup that will keep you warm!
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@cy lol ever tried one in actual -30 or -40? I suspect you haven't. Not advocating for RVs one way or the other, mind you. Not disagreeing, being denied the means is indeed an issue.
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I mean, I have slept in a tent out way below freezing. You don't need 4 tons of steel and fossil fuels to survive. Only problem I ever had with a tent was wind, so it won't save you from a hurricane.
Also you reeeeeally don't want to be in a tent when it catches on fire.
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@cy yes, absolutely. Fair points all, and I don't know what the person in the story meant. Way past freezing isn't much here in these parts though. -40 isn't something anyone who lives in continental 'Murica would know much about, maybe in North Dakota or Montana here and there.
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Don't think I ever got below -20, so yeah. Ice gets f*cking rock hard when you start going way below zero. I sure wouldn't want to live somewhere that got to -40.
Huh, and once you got hypothermia, insulation isn't going to help. All the insulation in the world won't give us the calories we need to heat ourselves. Especially older people, who ain't exactly musclebound. Motor homes have all that gasoline to burn to warm you up. Tents... not so much. You can maybe start a fire outside, but well... that's outside. (Plus tent + fire = VERY BAD)
Heat up some rocks to keep your tent warm, maybe...
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@cy @dyckron frostbite occurs in minutes below -30c, without wind. Tents just aren’t reasonable to live in at these temps. Amputations trend upward during our winter months.
Folks will light a heater in the tent, fall asleep, knock it over and suddenly the tent is on fire. The air inside is quickly consumed and the (now molten) tent collapses. The resident rarely survives.
This is what us northerners see and are gravely concerned about. Everyone deserves a warm bed with a roof over their head.
