I’d just like to say to every obnoxious Reply Guy Leftist who gave me shit on Twitter for what I said about Tulsi Gabbard 4-5 years ago:
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@inthehands It brings me no joy that I was right 9 years ago when I was trying to get people to call Nazis what they are, and that the orange turd would totally take their side.
I would much rather have been blowing things out of proportion and laughably wrong back then.
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... and beware of ideologies in general. Study and learn from them and harvest any good ideas they have, but don't wrap it around you.
“An idea is something you have; an ideology is something that has you” ― Morris Berman
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Related, from @DM_Ronin: https://mstdn.social/@DM_Ronin/113038434159803529
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ilias :thepiratebay:replied to Paul Cantrell last edited by
@inthehands Dan Savage was absolutely right 8 years ago about Jill Stein and the American Greens - even putting aside Stein's pro-Assadist and pro-Putinist position https://www.thestranger.com/politics/2016/07/19/24362128/dan-savage-on-jill-stein-just-no
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Paul Cantrellreplied to ilias :thepiratebay: last edited by
@DM_Ronin
Minus points to him for not mentioning Plurality Voting, the root problem here, a booby trap that will (and twice already has) cause any widely successful third party to trigger a realignment back to two parties.Otherwise agreed.
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ilias :thepiratebay:replied to Paul Cantrell last edited by
@inthehands well, my understanding is that voting itself in USA is in itself a huge hurdle for third-party or independent candidates
In comparison, from what I see (and I don't live in USA so I can be entirely wrong ofc), among third parties only Yang's Forward somewhat approaches this correctly - not mentioning his TED talk about ranked choice voting
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Paul Cantrellreplied to ilias :thepiratebay: last edited by
@DM_Ronin
Voting itself can be a huge hurdle for •voters• of any party — or not, depending on what state and county you live in. Minnesota? You’re good. Florida and you live near a lot of Black people? Heaven help you.Ranked Choice (IRV) is not great either, but it’s an improvement.
Regardless, the status quo means that basically every 3rd party in the US is a grift or about to become one. Sadly.
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@maxthyme
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@vashbear
Yes. I’m of a mind that •all• beliefs about fact, process, system, or mechanism must be provisional (i.e. open to rethinking). It’s extremely dangerous to believe you’ve figured out how to solve the world’s problems •with certainty•, because it opens the door to prioritizing hypothetical, uncertain utopia in the future over real, predictable harm in the present. -
brenna 🇧🇲🏳️🌈🇺🇸replied to Paul Cantrell last edited by
Here they talk about her kickstarting the recounts in MI, WI, and PA. After this she stopped. I’m not a fan of Stein but it’s important to set things straight.
Jill Stein files petition seeking Pennsylvania presidential election recount
An attorney for Green Party candidate Jill Stein filed a petition Monday in Commonwealth Court asking for a recount of Pennsylvania's 2016 presidential election.
pennlive (www.pennlive.com)
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Paul Cantrellreplied to brenna 🇧🇲🏳️🌈🇺🇸 last edited by
@brennx0r @ionizedgirl
Yeah, that’s the thing I was talking about. She got a •lot• of money to do very close to nothing, and there was never any accountability for her. -
"Dear Dr." ionizedgirlreplied to Paul Cantrell last edited by
@inthehands @brennx0r I kinda feel like because we're stuck with the electoral system we have and thus third parties aren't actually viable, there's no real pressure on the third parties to be serious. we need electoral reform so bad
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Paul Cantrellreplied to "Dear Dr." ionizedgirl last edited by
@ionizedgirl @brennx0r
Exactly