things i would like to see in mastodon that pleroma has been able to do for years:

Packets From The Void

@ariadne @ionizedgirl
Akkoma existing is pretty much the whole reason I see Pleroma derived software as worth looking at. It would almost certainly be my software of choice if I was standing up a new fediverse instance at this point.

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@UntaggedTransmitter @ionizedgirl i wouldn't bother. when i ran pleroma.site, the database broke several times, and it took *days* to rebuild it each time.

Packets From The Void

@ariadne @ionizedgirl
Sad to hear that akkoma is looking dead.

Also, I didn't know you ran pleroma.site, I had an account there for a bit!

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@UntaggedTransmitter @ionizedgirl mastodon is pissing me off to the point that i'm likely to make my own soon. part of my reason for using mastodon was to motivate me to build something from scratch.

tusooa :arevbunhdowohop: 西风

@ariadne @delta @ionizedgirl pleroma forces all posts to pass a validation function before storing it in the db. you still only get what is supported by it though. unsupported params are dropped.

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@tusooa @delta @ionizedgirl yes, which just makes me wonder why it still has this terrible object store design

SpaceLifeForm

@ariadne

Interesting thread.

How does Glitch-soc stack up?

cc: @jerry @paco

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@SpaceLifeForm @jerry @paco equally deficient

Emelia 👸🏻

@ariadne rejecting content based on hashtag has been on my list to do for Mastodon, but needs this activitypub issue resolved: https://github.com/w3c/activitypub/issues/424

This was an early attempt at this in Mastodon: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/29264

Just silently dropping the message may not be the best option, hence needing community consensus on best practices

Pac O’Lantern Hope

@ariadne @SpaceLifeForm Glitch is just a small patch to core mastodon. Mostly about UI improvements.

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@paco @SpaceLifeForm thank you for explaining glitch to me, as somebody who uses glitch already

Pac O’Lantern Hope

@ariadne You were CCed, effectively. I was answering @SpaceLifeForm who asked the question and tagged me into the conversation. I didn’t take much care to move userids around to make it clear who I was addressing. Sorry.

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@paco @SpaceLifeForm no worries, sorry for being snippy

FinchHaven

@thisismissem

This is interesting, but raises several questions for me (not that I'm anyone) that I've not seen addressed

Maybe early days in the larger issue, or something

Is this seen as content rejected because it contains $Word only, or content rejected because $Word is used in conjunction with a hashtag?

Who curates the list of $Words?

Then, a further question because of "Create a global default text filter to help prevent the use of racist and abusive language (Issue #31182)"

What language will the "global default text filter" list be kept in?

What becomes of other languages, which can be equally problematic on their own or in translation?

cc @ariadne

Emelia 👸🏻

@ariadne do you know where I can find information on pleroma's perceptual hashing capabilities?

I've googled and looked through their source code but can't find anything yet, I did see there's a NSFW server, but couldn't find it's code..

Emelia 👸🏻

@FinchHaven @ariadne I think a lot of what's been said is based on the MRF capability, where (as I understand it) you run additional elixir code in your server, much like a plugin system.

MRF has been deemed dangerous by some because it allowed rewriting audience & text on posts & publishing Flag activities as Notes — i.e., you can use it to out people who report others & rewrite posts to make it look like someone has said something they haven't.

Basically, great power, great responsibility.

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@thisismissem @FinchHaven nothing stops me from patching mastodon to do these things.

Emelia 👸🏻

@FinchHaven @ariadne so when it comes to filtering instance wide, it ends up being "whatever your admin decides so you need to 100% trust them not to do bad things with the power they have.

I think for Mastodon, if I were to implement content filtering at instance level, I'd want a public log of actions related to be available to users on the server.

But the drop message versus said a rejection isn't yet worked out at ActivityPub level yet, afaik

Emelia 👸🏻

@ariadne @FinchHaven no, but it does create some barrier to misuse, which is arguably better than none.. it's all a balancing act.

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@thisismissem @FinchHaven there is zero difference between someone publishing a patch to mastodon which does this and an MRF policy.