The Real Criminals

[roidingoldman@lemmy.world]

I'm not saying it's "good enough," I'm saying that it has improved. It will hopefully continue to improve. It's far from perfect. I have no disagreements there. My problem was with this statement:

If police and prisons made societies safer the USA would be the safest society on the planet.

Well it is one of the safest societies on the planet. And it continues to get safer.

This is not the argument against police you think it is.

[thatweirdguy1001@lemmy.world]

Bonus panel. The cop just shoots him.

[finitebanjo@lemmy.world]

If only there were some way we could influence laws and how they are enforced...

[roidingoldman@lemmy.world]

Global Peace Index includes factors like military spending and weapons exports. It's not a measure of how safe it is to live inside the USA.

[stinky@redlemmy.com]

With one reply you start with backpedaling, then you suggest a moderate approach to the police problem.

Has hoping that the problem would improve worked for us so far? People are being murdered everyday. When school shootings happen, the cops wait outside for the gunfire to stop before going in.

Your moderate solutions and hoping for things to improve hasn't fixed anything.
We need a progressive solution or things are going to continue the way they always have.

I'm sorry but your suggestions aren't helpful and I won't be listening to any more of them.

[roidingoldman@lemmy.world]

I literally never said anything about police. I'm not trying to argue about police. Just that the world is in fact a safe place that continues to get safer.

[evil_shrubbery@lemm.ee]

The machine works as intended.

Robbers are (allowed to be) part of it so they can take the focus, all the fingerpointing, be the big bad wolf mascot.

[evil_shrubbery@lemm.ee]

Not the bonus panel we deserve, but the bonus panel we get.

The true secret bonus panel is when the cop gets the bonus for the shooting.

[lanik2000@lemmy.world]

I've literally never had anybody in my life experience multiple riots, lock downs due to a crazed gunman shooting up his black neighbor and people crashing, burning and dieing in their yard probably due to drunk driving EVER, until I made some American friends. Visiting them was also a trip, fuck they're paranoid, and honestly I'm not even surprised. You people have police officers stationed at SCHOOLS for crying out loud, how more fucked can it get?!? If I was forced to live in the states I'd also go fucking crazy.

[thereturnofpeb@reddthat.com]

There would still be people who stole if we lived in a socialist paradise. And they would still want to be called boss.

[lanik2000@lemmy.world]

You'll notice that organized crime (ya know, as a metric of success) doesn't usually rely on robberies as their source of income. Robberies are risky and stupid.

[chad@sh.itjust.works]

Refresh your feed. They found him.

[samus12345@lemmy.world]

Yup, I saw an hour or so ago. Very odd to conveniently still have the weapon with him as well as a manifesto.

[gammelfisch@lemmy.world]

Spot on!

[viking_hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Unless of course you're either SUPER rich, a white supremacist, or both. Then cops are your ride or die bffs.

[zalgotext@sh.itjust.works]

I don't doubt that, but a lot of homeless people see living on the street as worse than living in prison

[stinky@redlemmy.com]

Honey it was literally the topic of the discussion. Please stop backpedaling, it's humiliating.

[majorhavoc@programming.dev]

I've been saving up for some space tourism, but you're right, it's time to buy a senator. (This is sarcasm.)

[dragonfucker@lemmy.nz]

Praise Muad'dib!

[dragonfucker@lemmy.nz]

The cops can plant as much evidence on Luigi as they want, that doesn't make him The Adjuster.