Welcome ex-Redditors!
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Yes everyone is aware of this power so are using the word as a propaganda tool to further their causes. And everyone is aware that the word is being used as a propaganda tool.
The scary part is that by watering down the meaning of the word, it's made actual genocide more likely. If everyone is constantly being accused of genocide all of the time then no one will know when an actual genocide is happening.
If everyone is constantly being accused of genocide all of the time then no one will know when an actual genocide is happening.
If you can do something as simple as compare numbers (a skill taught in elementary school), you can know when genocide is happening, regardless of what other people around you try to weasel about what they believe the term to be.
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Earnest response:
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I was in my teens, just gaining political awareness at the time of the nato intervention in yugoslavia. I was in the US for that experience. The difference between what was said about the bombing campaign inside the US vs what I heard from my family outside made it clear to me that there's always two narratives at play. When 9/11 happened I was made extremely uncomfortable by the open jingoism, then with Iraq I was primed to distrust the WMD line. I got involved in anti-war protests, then I quickly became aware that democrats were not faithful opposition when it came to war. The Kerry campaign pitch was essentially just to run the war better than bush was. When I wrote my democratic senator/reps expressing opposition to the war I got boilerplate responses.
I pretty much only hung out with the punks and theater kids through high school because being opposed to the war would get most anyone else to respond with 'what are you a terrorist?' I was reading political theory at this point, but legitimately found it hard to engage with marx or lenin at the time because it was the end of history and all I could really see was that avenue being closed off entirely. I'd get lots of exposure to that sort of politics from listening to my grandfather rant though. While I wasn't really drawn to organizing at the time I was perfectly happy to go onto conservative forums and rile up/dunk on the fox news watchers.
What I did develop at a young age was a really critical eye for the media, it was jarring whenever I would travel to visit family, leaving America really felt like leaving a bubble. Not just leaving the rat race, but for example when not visiting touristy areas, if I was speaking in English I'd get people being like "oh you're American? why are so many people in prison there?". I still remember as a kid trying to wrap my head around just why so many people were in jail, the result was a deep disappointment in the US, and any politician upholding 'norms'.
At the same time as being totally disenchanted with the US I realized that I still needed to survive somehow, and living in the US gave me better options than anywhere else so I opted to stay. I knew I was trans at this point, not that I really had the words to properly describe the feeling, though I also felt that pretty much everyone I would interact with would be hostile to me if I expressed them, which made me avoid discussing it at all. I did know that I couldn't afford a prolonged encounter with the American medical system. I also hated the prospect of having to be the sickest patient in the mental ward just to be able to get medical support. I concluded that it just wasn't to be and instead I opted to repress and went to college. My degree selection based on a cold calculation of what degree that I could stand would make good money and graduated in time for '08 financial collapse. Putting off transition felt like a wise move as I then needed to move back in with my parents while looking for work.
I remember being actually hopeful that something might change after that and the occupy protests, only to be monumentally disappointed by Obama.
I was actually hopeful for Bernie too, it was nice to see what looked like the pendulum swinging left for a change. To then have whatever youthful energy there was so callously shut down to prop up the old guard democrat fossils really made it clear to me what side they were on. COVID also got me to to re-evaluate my life and political commitments. Organizing with my local anarchists was great for connecting with other trans people who were also COVID-concious, many of whom would probably also be considered tankies by lemmy users at this point. It also motivated me to read more theory, anarchist and marxist. Parenti was actually a great entrypoint for me on the marxist side, while Graeber was my original favorite on the anarchist side. I opted to start transitioning late in life when I finally had both financial independence and the social supports.
I went on reddit for easy dopamine hits pretty much since the digg migration, but after october 7 I just kept getting banned repeatedly and that motivated me to finally move over to lemmy.ml and I've been here since.
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"You must never go there, Simba!"
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The tankies are pretty bad on the world politics community on ml.
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Because you imply it in this very same thread.
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That does sound bad. If that was my experience, I guess I might actively try to avoid them too. But as it happens, I just rarely see any hexbear stuff anyway. So the fueling of cross-instance conflicts feels unnecessary and a bit icky to me.
I mean, most of the communities are on .world, and if they're not federating with .world, they're just not going to show up in the majority of comment sections.
But also, HB is much more of a communal space than most of the big instances, and much more aligned on how they engage with off-site content. And as the fediverse grows horizontally, a significant part of it probably going to be through focused instances, rather than more general purpose sites. We have those covered already, and most of the people interested in something like that aren't going to leave Reddit anytime soon.
They have what they want.
This means there will be more "we don't want to host this kind of content" discussions over time, not fewer. The fediverse will look more patchwork, not less.
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No we don't; link, please.
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Yes, welcome redditors to .world, which is trying to model itself as reddit 2.
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It's not propaganda if it comes from the USA!
Nobody thinks or acts like this
You can be critical of two governments at the same time. You don't have to love one to hate the other
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yes a decentralized federated community is very aligned with tankies totally
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The tankies are pretty bad on the world politics community on ml.
The politics community on world is even more rabid and unconstructive than the Reddit equivalent
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Ok man, you do you.
I checked you profile, in 4 months you have 3 times the comments I wrote in 3 years and you answered my comment within 1 minute.
I strongly suggest a healthy cure of touching grass.Drag suggests you learn what a dude, guy, or man is, and why perhaps you shouldn't call strangers those words, especially after investigating their profiles and most likely realising they're nonbinary.
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"Not all people defending their country are nice people"
"It's almost a genocide, but not quite, so it's all good"
Priceless. Do you think Russia would have had moral problems arming questionable militia in the first place? Because at least the USA did, initially.
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Okay, what about ...
Look, I know you're in your young 20's, almost definitely white, definitely a man, and I was once each of those things, too.
You've gone down the Right-wing pipeline, you've nodded along, you've downed the kool-aid. From the sounds of it a light sprinkling of an extremely flawed, right-wing education system.
You are not experiencing your own thoughts. You're regurgitating arguments you've heard online; over and over again, you say the same things, respond in the same way, make the same mistakes. You hamfistedly wave at anyone who ever called themselves socialist and go 'see! look at these mistakes! They're all the same!' When in reality:
Although the emergence of the Soviet Union as the world's first nominally socialist state led to widespread association of socialism with the Soviet economic model, it has since shifted in favour of democratic socialism. Academics recognised the mixed economies of several Western European and Nordic countries as "democratic socialist".[34][35] Following the revolutions of 1989, many of these countries moved away from socialism as a neoliberal consensus replaced the social democratic consensus in the advanced capitalist world.[36] In parallel, many former socialist politicians and political parties embraced "Third Way" politics, remaining committed to equality and welfare while abandoning public ownership and class-based politics.[37] Socialism experienced a resurgence in popularity in the 2010s.
Let's look at Pol Pot, to go back to your whataboutism:
Ideologically a Maoist and a Khmer ethnonationalist...
Seriously, it's on his goddamn wikipedia page, dude. This, what you're doing here? It's embarrassing. You think you're standing up to those meany evil 'left-wingers' when in reality you're a Toy Poodle for fascism, yapping at what you're told to, always waiting for another head pat from your online friends that never quite comes, never quite seems to make you feel like you feel it should.
Conservative parties began because aristocrats felt they had lost too much power, and wanted into the parliamentary system. It's oligarchs now. Is that really who has your best interest? Do you think Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk or Trump care about you? That they will ever do something for you, at the expense of themselves?
Because over on the socialist side we're at the protests, we're at the strikes, we're demanding change, we're helping the poor, we're punching up at authority. You're ideologically marching alongside cops, brown shirts, Nazi's, and you what, think they'll spare you? At best you're meat for the grinder when the fighting starts.
Look into all of this. Really dive into what Conservatism is, why it was created, how it's been opposed to every advancement in society that you enjoy: shorter work weeks, shorter work days, actual safety for workers, workers compensation, paternity leave, health care, freedom to strike, etc. All of those are socialist-won, often through literal bloodshed.
What have wealthy billionaires done to make your life better? Why do you think they're so invested in keeping you angry at visible minorities, women, 'the left', the 2% of the planet who are transgendered, the 2SLGBTQIA+ community? Why is it your enemies are all exactly strong enough to scare you, yet so weak you can insult them for it? Why do you have to punch down to hit these terrifying enemies of whatever it is you hold dear?
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Of course drag isn't inviting to sealion, drag is gish-galloping and isn't interested in any conversation. drag has proven this, from defending Nazi-led pograms as "true revolution" to pretending Marx was an Anarchist and wanted full decentralized horizontalism, rather than full centralization and democratization as industry gets ever more complex.
drag is therefore either uninterested in genuine conversation, or is a troll.
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I have to ask, are shitlibs aware that Wikipedia isn't divine gospel, and that there are other works in the history of humanity? Because it seems to inevitably be their one and only go to, which is particularly embarrassing given that even a middle school teacher could tell you that it's not a good source. Even worse, it doesn't' even back up your claim!
I get more and more liberal every time I see some self-described leftist call people a shitlib because they’re slightly right of Pol Pit or whatever.
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