Welcome ex-Redditors!
-
They’re not censoring or banning me from posting Winnie the Pooh, you know? Your experience may be different.
I mean, unless you frequent .ml communities, they can't censor or ban you.
That's the thing though. Those .ml communities end up quietly curated to curb any criticism of the admins' favorite authoritarians. Highlighting this fact is necessary, and participating in .ml communities is undesirable at best; those who still wish to do so should at least be informed as to what goes on.
Oh I see what you're saying. I agree about the communities, but I was speaking more about the users from .ml getting blasted in communities outside .ml simply because they are from that instance (like in this thread).
If the users from there are participating in communities from outside that instance and following the rules, why does it matter if they're from .ml? They're not in the censored community, we're not in the censored community, who cares what the .ml admin are doing?
-
Lemmy.ml is the original instance and the dev instance. I joined it because there was literally no alternative at the time. It's pretty annoying being called a tankie left and right because of this
wHY DoN't yOu chAnGe InSTanCe?
-
Oh I see what you're saying. I agree about the communities, but I was speaking more about the users from .ml getting blasted in communities outside .ml simply because they are from that instance (like in this thread).
If the users from there are participating in communities from outside that instance and following the rules, why does it matter if they're from .ml? They're not in the censored community, we're not in the censored community, who cares what the .ml admin are doing?
If the users from there are participating in communities from outside that instance and following the rules, why does it matter if they’re from .ml?
Communities shape how people think and act. Normalizing bootlicking for authoritarian regimes causes those who participate in those communities to feel and reproduce that normalization. Not only that, but when grad and Hexbear were defederated by many instances, many users on Grad and Hexbear created accounts on .ml for the explicit purpose of continuing the authoritarian apologia they so enjoyed in the exact places that told them they weren't welcomed. At some point, pattern recognition sets in, and it's not inherently wrong for it to do so.
I don't think every .ml user is an authoritarian. But if I see someone making authoritarian apologia, I'd say a good 4/5s of the time, it's someone from .ml.
-
If the users from there are participating in communities from outside that instance and following the rules, why does it matter if they’re from .ml?
Communities shape how people think and act. Normalizing bootlicking for authoritarian regimes causes those who participate in those communities to feel and reproduce that normalization. Not only that, but when grad and Hexbear were defederated by many instances, many users on Grad and Hexbear created accounts on .ml for the explicit purpose of continuing the authoritarian apologia they so enjoyed in the exact places that told them they weren't welcomed. At some point, pattern recognition sets in, and it's not inherently wrong for it to do so.
I don't think every .ml user is an authoritarian. But if I see someone making authoritarian apologia, I'd say a good 4/5s of the time, it's someone from .ml.
Communities shape how people think and act. Normalizing bootlicking for authoritarian regimes causes those who participate in those communities to feel and reproduce that normalization.
Sure, but only if they're solely in those echo chambers, which if they're posting in .world, they clearly aren't. And any ones who do are told off because of the content of their posts, not their home servers.
I see quite a few inflammatory posters from .world and .ee (especially of the American exceptionalism, anti-Palestine, and more recently anti-Canadian (🤭) varieties) but I don't automatically assume every single person on those servers hold those values. In fact, I think 9/10 comments I see you post specifically, PugJ, I agree with.
I had no idea about the Hexbear/lemmygrad lore though, I'll definitely keep that in mind going forward.
-
Communities shape how people think and act. Normalizing bootlicking for authoritarian regimes causes those who participate in those communities to feel and reproduce that normalization.
Sure, but only if they're solely in those echo chambers, which if they're posting in .world, they clearly aren't. And any ones who do are told off because of the content of their posts, not their home servers.
I see quite a few inflammatory posters from .world and .ee (especially of the American exceptionalism, anti-Palestine, and more recently anti-Canadian (🤭) varieties) but I don't automatically assume every single person on those servers hold those values. In fact, I think 9/10 comments I see you post specifically, PugJ, I agree with.
I had no idea about the Hexbear/lemmygrad lore though, I'll definitely keep that in mind going forward.
-
Those assholes don’t like women’s sports, they only use it as a stick to hurt those who are different from them.
-
it's funny that .zip is a domain, yes. I can't imagine it gets used for anything other than email scams
-
Ngl, I am learning so much lemmy server id pol from you right now, lol
It's very interesting reading your experience (which I guess is the more common experience), and how even on this free and open platform there is still some sort of social grouping happening. I didn't really even factor that into my choice of server when I signed up, but now that I think about it, servers like slrpnk and the old 196 server (I'm completely blanking on the instance name) are built around special groups, obviously so. I guess I just don't think too deeply on the identities of the general instances, because they claim to not have one (but they clearly do lol.)
Thanks for making the effort to explain all this, I appreciate it!
-
Ngl, I am learning so much lemmy server id pol from you right now, lol
It's very interesting reading your experience (which I guess is the more common experience), and how even on this free and open platform there is still some sort of social grouping happening. I didn't really even factor that into my choice of server when I signed up, but now that I think about it, servers like slrpnk and the old 196 server (I'm completely blanking on the instance name) are built around special groups, obviously so. I guess I just don't think too deeply on the identities of the general instances, because they claim to not have one (but they clearly do lol.)
Thanks for making the effort to explain all this, I appreciate it!
Happy to help! I'm terminally online af, so I see a lot of... all of the discourse, lmao.
-
Happy to help! I'm terminally online af, so I see a lot of... all of the discourse, lmao.
Meanwhile I'm learning my instance is so chill I have no idea where the discourse even is
I used to be a daily frequenter of r/subredditdrama too, I've apparently gone soft.
-
Yeah I randomly picked an instance when I created this account around a year ago, and these days I see people comment things like “lol of course you’re from .ml”.
I don’t even know what’s the difference between instances. And it’s not like we were given a whole lot of explanation when picking one.
-
.rar isn't a domain yet is it? Lol
-
It's a bit like OSRS for reddit - an attempt to revive the reddit we all have very rose-tinted memories of. Unfortunately we seem to have forgotten about the the rampant casual misogyny, tribalism, moderator political infighting, that the 2007 XP rates were actually abysmally implemented and desperately needed retooling and that deeply awkward "ron paul" phase.
-
Meanwhile I'm learning my instance is so chill I have no idea where the discourse even is
I used to be a daily frequenter of r/subredditdrama too, I've apparently gone soft.
The closest thing to subreddit drama here is probably yepowertrippingbastards over on db0ero, but even that is more like Am I The Asshole for mod bans than anything else.
-
Lemmy.ml is the original instance and the dev instance. I joined it because there was literally no alternative at the time. It's pretty annoying being called a tankie left and right because of this
Yeah, that's pretty unfair. You shouldn't have to put up with this; and it definitely is not your fault, or the fault of the instance. This "tankie instance" thing is bullshit.
![Cowbee [he/they]](https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/c18ce632-5fb5-4888-8226-3dc55a07acc4.jpeg "Cowbee [he/they]"){kind=avatar}
