American measurements
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go $fsck yourselfreplied to [email protected] last edited by
More pixels
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And I also forgot about the Mainers and their two-by-faws
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[email protected]replied to go $fsck yourself last edited by
Can you make it bigger? I don't want to have to get my reading glasses, they're in the other room
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I was hungry
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[email protected]replied to go $fsck yourself last edited by
Sorry, I'm still having trouble reading it, can you make it a little bit bigger? Maybe also change the colors a bit, like inverted or something
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It's because the actual cut is 2x4, and the wood shrinks. The typical shrinkage is known and accounted for. It is a treat when a house has an actual 2x though, i.e., it was cut divided by the shrinkage ratio, or cut dry.
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The European mind cannot comprehend that as wood expands, dicks also expands
This makes total sense
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You can't convince me that wood shrinks by 35% by crossection. No way.
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That’s not from shrinkage (well the 1/16 might be, especially newer fast heated junk at the Homely Despot). It’s from when they mill the rough sawn 2x4 down to “finished size”. You can buy actual 2x4s, but they won’t have the nice planned surfaces or beveled edges.
I’m not wondering why it’s that sized, I’m annoyed why they insist on calling both rough saw and finished items 2x4s.
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I had to go back and re-read the history of dimensional lumber. 2x4 was an actual 2x4 cut until recommendations by the Forest Products Laboratory (American Lumber Congress?) in 1919 to balance functional and economic requirements (1 5/8 x 3 5/8). It's neither the shrinkage nor just milling after drying (and if my last 20 trips to big box stores with lumber are any indication, they don't care about cupping or warpage).
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Yup, that was wrong.
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That's why pools are so expensive.
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Worse still, the pattern does not continue like one would expect.
- Nominal: 2x4 -- Actual: 1.5" x 3.5"
- Nominal: 2x6 -- Actual: 1.5" x 5.5"
- Nominal: 2x8 -- Actual: 1.5" x 7.25"
- Nominal: 2x10 -- Actual: 1.5" x 9.25"
- Nominal: 2x12 -- Actual: 1.5" x 11.25"
There's just an arbitrary point where they decided to take an extra 1/4" bite out of it. I'm not sure whether that's more of an effect of shrinkage from kiln drying being proportional to the original length or an effect of industry practice to mill smaller boards to eke out more cuts per tree.
And for the record, yes, I am aware the discrepancy is not entirely explained by shrinkage. They do a planing step after drying. But the shrinkage is a not insignificant part of it. They have to round down to the nearest convenient dimension from wherever the shrinkage stops.
If longer boards shrink more, the finished boards would necessarily have to be smaller. I question whether that's the effect at play, though, because I believe there was a phase in the industry where that extra quarter inch wasn't taken off, and they changed their minds about it later.
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Yeah whenever I need lumber I plan to set aside at least half an hour to dig through the piles to find OK boards.
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You got the leap year rule wrong.
Every fourth year unless the year is divisible by 100 unless the year is also divisible by 400