If a country plants a bomb in the pocket of 2000 people who they have 'identified' as part of a terror group, but that person doesn't wear a uniform...
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@chris
> is that an act of war, or terror?Isn't the whole point of having internationally recognised rules of war that if it's claimed as an act of war, but not clearly within those rules, it's a war crime?
Inconveniently for the powers that be, that makes every US President from Dubya onwards a war criminal, as well as Blair, and at least half the heads of state of Israel. So it tends to get ignored.
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🧡Karen a woke Karen 🧡replied to Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 last edited by
I think we can safely say both scenarios breach Geneva Conventions #WarCrimes #Civilians
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Social Diaspora Bardreplied to Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 last edited by
@chris The only people who would have had those pagers were part of a terrorist organization. This is micro targeted to the exact people it should have been. The potential for non-terrorist casualties was significantly less than if they'd used conventional military operations. If they had done something like this with Hamas, things in Gaza would be very different now.
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Sir Rochard 'Dock' Bunsonreplied to Social Diaspora Bard last edited by
You're joking, right?
Creating 500 unknowing suicide bombers among civilians in another soveriegn country you're not officially at war with is micro targeted?
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸replied to Social Diaspora Bard last edited by
@textualdeviance One man's terrorist is another man's Army and if this is an act of war it is a pretty obvious, indiscriminate attack putting civilians in absolutely any space under direct threat. You do not want to live in a world where this is "normal".
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@chris careful... you are admitting that israel just committed a war crime and effectively a terrorist act on another country...
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Social Diaspora Bardreplied to Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 last edited by
@chris Terrorism apologist? Yeah, no point continuing this convo.
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@kingbaal 100%
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸replied to Social Diaspora Bard last edited by
@textualdeviance Sorry, I'm not sure which terrorism you are talking about. Is it the one where the innocent people in grocery stores get blown up because they are standing in line?
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tuban_muzurureplied to Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 last edited by
Are you asserting only innocent people were killed in this strike? That's not rhetorical.
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸replied to tuban_muzuru last edited by
@tuban_muzuru @textualdeviance no I did not. I said it was indiscriminate and a clear war crime.
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tuban_muzurureplied to Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 last edited by
Well, that's good. Because I don't think you're a "terrorist apologist", either. Just wanted to make that clear,
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸replied to tuban_muzuru last edited by
@tuban_muzuru @textualdeviance thank you for asking.
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tuban_muzurureplied to Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 last edited by
Every time I say this, it makes me sound like some edgelord - but anyone who's trying to gin up moral outrage over either Israel or Hizb'allah is pitifully naive. There are no innocent bystanders.
It's an insane asylum, locked from the inside. Anyone who takes any side in this mess does not understand it.
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸replied to tuban_muzuru last edited by
@tuban_muzuru @textualdeviance the best description I have heard for it lately is that it is generational trauma piled upon generational trauma on all sides feeding off each other.
Unravelling that is … not easy.
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tuban_muzurureplied to Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 last edited by
The last thing this situation needs is a bunch of outsiders taking sides. Trauma, my ass, these assholes bring it upon each other.
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸replied to tuban_muzuru last edited by
@tuban_muzuru @textualdeviance you’re not wrong. But there is always also a cause to why people are assholes. In this case, I believe those causes overlap which makes it darn near impossible to end the cycle.
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Sampath Pāṇini ®replied to Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 last edited by
@chris @tuban_muzuru @textualdeviance
Hurt people hurt people.
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸replied to Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 last edited by [email protected]
Here is a video from the Washington Post. I removed the sound so it is less violent. You can see how in this one case, this “act of war” was carried out in a grocery store filled with innocent civilians. There was no opportunity for civilians to be warned much less leave. All were in imminent danger. And the claimed “combatant” was going about civilian tasks, purchasing food, as a civilian.
It cannot be considered anything other than an extreme act of government sanctioned terrorism within another sovereign state. #Israel #Lebanon #Hezbollah
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸replied to Sampath Pāṇini ® last edited by
@paninid @tuban_muzuru @textualdeviance precisely.