Meanwhile, speaking of policy, of which Trump has none, J.D.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Paxil on last edited by
@Paxil A lot of Texas folks I know who are LGBTQ but not white, entitled, and wealthy would be surprised to find they don't count.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to That Girl Over There on last edited by
@originlbookgirl I agree.
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TPreplied to William Lindsey :toad: on last edited by
@wdlindsy This weird guy, who does not seem to lift a finger in carework, believes this is all women are good for, but I bet you he is perfectly content to drive poor mothers into crap low wage jobs for their pittance "welfare" child allowances.
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Stephreplied to William Lindsey :toad: on last edited by
@wdlindsy
I find this interview fascinating because that quote actually comes from the interviewer. JD Vance's description of his own situation, though, doesn't align with what the interviewer is saying.JD says his wife wanted to pursue a legal clerkship when their first baby was 7 weeks old, and so her mom (Biology prof at a university) took a one-year leave of absence from her job to come live with them and provide care for their child. He seems to support all of this.
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JD points out that this is not an economically smart move and tries to say that this is what the left wants. However, most left-leaning people I know would be against neoliberal arguments about the economic benefits of having a woman return to work immediately after giving birth and would agree that the benefits to family, culture, society, etc. make having the mother or other family member able to watch a brand new baby the optimal choice when possible. -
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Which is why left-leaning places (like Usha Vance's mother's university) support (and often fund) leaves of absences that people can take to support their families: maternity leaves, parental leaves, caregiver leaves, etc. Would the mother in law have come had she not had that job security? -
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The (unrealized) goal of these leaves is to make it so that the woman/other caregiver can return to work without suffering a heavy financial or career-related penalty by taking that leave. When they are available, many people will take them. I maxed out the maternity and parental leave benefits available to me here in Ontario--18 months of job-protected leave (funded for 12 months) the last time. -
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And, what happened to the Vances' baby after the one year was up? Did they pursue daycare or a nanny? Clearly, the grandmother went back to her job and Usha continued pursuing her career. Isn't JD's situation actually a great argument for maternity/parental/caregiving leaves and childcare support for working mothers? -
Paxilreplied to William Lindsey :toad: on last edited by
@wdlindsy Never meant to imply anyone doesn't count.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Paxil on last edited by
@Paxil I'm sorry I gave the impression that you did. That wasn't my point. It was to address the way in which a lot of wealthy white gay men tend to represent the gay community as just themselves — Log Cabin Republicans being a case in point. That obviously overlooks whole worlds of the LGBTQ community — lesbians, trans people, people without money and social status, people of color, and so on.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Steph on last edited by
@StephBoragina Very good questions. You may get a laugh from this report:
Study: People Exposed to JD Vance Lose All Interest in Procreating
Research subjects became less likely to reproduce and more inclined to acquire a cat.
(www.borowitzreport.com)
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Steph on last edited by
@StephBoragina You're right — that's what I meant when I said that Vance "agrees." He was agreeing with, and guffawed with, a commentator making that statement. Your thread of comments is great — right on point.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to TP on last edited by
@3dogcouch Absolutely. You're absolutely right.
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Stephreplied to William Lindsey :toad: on last edited by
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Steph on last edited by
@StephBoragina I certainly got a much-needed laugh from it!
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: on last edited by
"The menopausal women of the world owe JD Vance an enormous debt gratitude for helping them understand why their bodies no longer work.
It’s because they don’t need to. Their entire function on this earth—being sexy and birthing and rearing the children that must result from being sexy—has ended."
~ Holly Berkley Fletcher
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Runyan50replied to William Lindsey :toad: on last edited by
@wdlindsy Ended like his political career? What happens when a 40 something white male can no longer function in his chosen career?
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Karen Strickholmreplied to William Lindsey :toad: on last edited by
@wdlindsy That lines up bc one of the courses that came up in was in woman studies. Also in exploring medieval literature. It comes out of philosophical thought having to do with the operation of social systems, but I don't remember the details. "Deconstruction" was the movement that took over the literart world back in the day (1970s through 1980s). It was a recolutionary new way to approach a text, film, visual arts. It was a pain in the ass to learn!
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SufferForMe 🆘replied to William Lindsey :toad: on last edited by
Politicians really should stop devising policy based on dystopian sci-fi novels.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to SufferForMe 🆘 on last edited by
@sufferforme Indeed. A valuable angle to think about Vance, for sure — really dystopian sci-fi novels.