Meanwhile, speaking of policy, of which Trump has none, J.D.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Karen Strickholm last edited by
@KarenStrickholm @lolonurse Yes, it was key, I think. My grandparents all grew up on farms, one in a family of 15 children of whom only 10 lived to adulthood, one in a family of 12 children, and one in a family of 11 children. I think the labor of all those children was essential on those farms. In the next generation when the tie to farm life ended, families stopped being anywhere near that size.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Karen Strickholm last edited by
@KarenStrickholm @lolonurse I'd try, but am so unhandy, not sure how I'd do! I think I may have already told you a story my grandmother used to tell, about feeling so abashed in the presence of her well-educated sister-in-law Frances. As my grandmother milked one evening, Frances stood with her watching in the barn. As they talked, my grandmother told Frances she felt so inferior to her, with her education, and Frances replied, Look at what you can do that I can't! You can milk a cow.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Karen Strickholm last edited by
@KarenStrickholm @lolonurse Thanks for explaining that to me โ I know very little about the world of astrological thinking.
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @KarenStrickholm
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Karen Strickholmreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @lolonurse Also if I recall correctly, they were instructed to have more kids additionally to help grow the church. That is such Piscean age thinking! ๏ธ
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Karen Strickholmreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @lolonurse I find it to be enormously rich in symbology, like another language but a language of images and signs with complex meaning, like ๏ธ for Virgo has an enormous battalion of connotations attached to it, and additional meaning depending on its location, and how it sits related to the other signs, planets, and celestial real estate. The astrologer is a storyteller who processes all this symbology and weaves it into a s5ory about a person, a situation, an era of time.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Karen Strickholm last edited by
@KarenStrickholm @lolonurse Yes, a way of thinking and talking about the world that has deep roots in many cultures. From the Greeks and Romans to Shakespeare and beyond, people have seen great significance in what's written in the stars. Thomas Moore does a good job of summing this up in his classic book Care of the Soul.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Karen Strickholm last edited by
@KarenStrickholm @lolonurse I'm sure that could have been an underlying motivation. I think the most significant motivation was to carry on pre-scientific teachings about human reproduction that Thomas Aquinas imported from Aristotle, and which then became the basis of official Catholic teaching about human sexuality โ teaching now rightly rejected by a majority of Catholics in many parts of the world.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse @KarenStrickholm Ah, the days when we could celebrate hair because we had it! Well, I speak for myselfโฆ.
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Christo. London, Englandreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @KarenStrickholm @lolonurse
Excuse me for butting in but in living memory the Rwanda Hutu massacre of Tutsi is a horrific example and yet they now live along one another again. -
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@wdlindsy @KarenStrickholm
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@wdlindsy @KarenStrickholm
Early in my career, I worked with a very lovely, sweet woman who was a devout Catholic. She had 11 children. She was so cheerful, kind & upbeat. She really took each child as a blessing. And her husband was just as lovely. -
William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse @KarenStrickholm I'm sure that's how my spouse's parents looked at their eight children โ as gifts from God. His brother who is 7th of the 8 children tells us that he always felt, growing up, that by the time he was born, the parents were emotionally exhausted and had little to offer beyond food and shelter โ and that they thought their job didn't extend to providing emotional support to their children. I suspect that may often happen with large families.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse @KarenStrickholm Yes โ harking back, I think, to days when "primitive" people looked at the sky and wondered what mysteries it was disclosing to them.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Christo. London last edited by
@Christo_459 @KarenStrickholm @lolonurse Yes, I don't think I'll ever get the scenes of "Hotel Rwanda" out of my head.
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @KarenStrickholm
Plus, by that point, the older girls were expected to help their mothers. My M-i-L was one of 12. When she finished 9th grade, her father said that was enough schooling for a girl, pulled her so she could help her mom care for the younger ones. -
Karen Strickholmreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @lolonurse Oh I firgot about that book! For me, the question "Is it real" is irrelevant. What matters to me is "Is it useful."
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Karen Strickholmreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @lolonurse It's ciunterintuitive but nothing can feel lonlier perhaps, than being a member of a large family
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Karen Strickholm last edited by
@KarenStrickholm @lolonurse Yes, the truths that shape our lives have always included powerful stories โ fictions โ that we know are not real in a scientific, empirical sense, but are nonetheless real at profound levels.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Karen Strickholm last edited by
@KarenStrickholm @lolonurse That makes sense to me. I had only two siblings so don't know from experience, but it's something my spouse's brother who is next to last among the children talks about quite a bit โ the lack of emotional connection, stemming from his parents' inability to see that their children needed emotional reinforcement.