Meanwhile, speaking of policy, of which Trump has none, J.D.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse @KarenStrickholm It's a life that requires real dedication and sacrifice, and if you don't raise a family of lots of children โ 8 of them in my husband's family, a family his mother, who was one of 12, called a small family โ you miss out on a lot of free, unremunerated labor.
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Karen Strickholmreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @lolonurse There is this whole thing in astrology - we are leaving the piscean age, and entering the aquarian age. 2,000 year cycle of Pisces was a time of building cities, of hierarchical structures - as seen in family, government, business. In the time of Aquarius, is is all about dominance of the individual. So for ex, instead of climbimg a corporate ladder, business will get done through loose alliances of individuals working on specific projects. Have article, will try to find!
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Karen Strickholmreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @lolonurse You could do it! Basically, you grab the teat and squeeze it in you hand feom the top down. There, that's it!
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Karen Strickholmreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @lolonurse That is such a good point, that labor was essential to running a farm back in the day.
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse @KarenStrickholm I think that many people would definitely now see it as an outmoded pattern of child-rearing and of organizing families. It was taken for granted in the past because farm families did rely heavily on the labor of children in the family. And, of course, in strongly Catholic cultures like the one in which my spouse was raised, this was reinforced by religious teachings forbidding use of contraception and encouraging families to have as many children as "God" sent.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Karen Strickholm last edited by
@KarenStrickholm @lolonurse Yes, it was key, I think. My grandparents all grew up on farms, one in a family of 15 children of whom only 10 lived to adulthood, one in a family of 12 children, and one in a family of 11 children. I think the labor of all those children was essential on those farms. In the next generation when the tie to farm life ended, families stopped being anywhere near that size.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Karen Strickholm last edited by
@KarenStrickholm @lolonurse I'd try, but am so unhandy, not sure how I'd do! I think I may have already told you a story my grandmother used to tell, about feeling so abashed in the presence of her well-educated sister-in-law Frances. As my grandmother milked one evening, Frances stood with her watching in the barn. As they talked, my grandmother told Frances she felt so inferior to her, with her education, and Frances replied, Look at what you can do that I can't! You can milk a cow.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Karen Strickholm last edited by
@KarenStrickholm @lolonurse Thanks for explaining that to me โ I know very little about the world of astrological thinking.
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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Karen Strickholmreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @lolonurse Also if I recall correctly, they were instructed to have more kids additionally to help grow the church. That is such Piscean age thinking! ๏ธ
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Karen Strickholmreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @lolonurse I find it to be enormously rich in symbology, like another language but a language of images and signs with complex meaning, like ๏ธ for Virgo has an enormous battalion of connotations attached to it, and additional meaning depending on its location, and how it sits related to the other signs, planets, and celestial real estate. The astrologer is a storyteller who processes all this symbology and weaves it into a s5ory about a person, a situation, an era of time.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Karen Strickholm last edited by
@KarenStrickholm @lolonurse Yes, a way of thinking and talking about the world that has deep roots in many cultures. From the Greeks and Romans to Shakespeare and beyond, people have seen great significance in what's written in the stars. Thomas Moore does a good job of summing this up in his classic book Care of the Soul.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Karen Strickholm last edited by
@KarenStrickholm @lolonurse I'm sure that could have been an underlying motivation. I think the most significant motivation was to carry on pre-scientific teachings about human reproduction that Thomas Aquinas imported from Aristotle, and which then became the basis of official Catholic teaching about human sexuality โ teaching now rightly rejected by a majority of Catholics in many parts of the world.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse @KarenStrickholm Ah, the days when we could celebrate hair because we had it! Well, I speak for myselfโฆ.
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Christo. London, Englandreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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Excuse me for butting in but in living memory the Rwanda Hutu massacre of Tutsi is a horrific example and yet they now live along one another again. -
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@wdlindsy @KarenStrickholm
Early in my career, I worked with a very lovely, sweet woman who was a devout Catholic. She had 11 children. She was so cheerful, kind & upbeat. She really took each child as a blessing. And her husband was just as lovely. -
William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse @KarenStrickholm I'm sure that's how my spouse's parents looked at their eight children โ as gifts from God. His brother who is 7th of the 8 children tells us that he always felt, growing up, that by the time he was born, the parents were emotionally exhausted and had little to offer beyond food and shelter โ and that they thought their job didn't extend to providing emotional support to their children. I suspect that may often happen with large families.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse @KarenStrickholm Yes โ harking back, I think, to days when "primitive" people looked at the sky and wondered what mysteries it was disclosing to them.