Meanwhile, speaking of policy, of which Trump has none, J.D.
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @KarenStrickholm
It's so true. I have to laugh- this city girl who learned to milk cows at age 4. My life now kind of stinks, but I have wonderful, fun, amazing memories.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse @KarenStrickholm Wonderful-sounding memories. I would not have a clue as to how to milk a cow, though my roots are not that far removed from farm life. My father's parents farmed until he was a small boy. All four of my grandparents grew up on farms. I'm sure all could milk cows, but that art or skill did not pass down to me.
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @KarenStrickholm
My aunt & uncle had a large dairy farm, where we often went during summers. All extra hands were welcome, and I was a curious & willing animal lover. They had barn cats, a herding dog, an elder draft horse, chickens, ducks...so perfect! -
William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse @KarenStrickholm You had rich childhood experiences. By my childhood, only two siblings of my grandparents were farming — a brother of my maternal grandmother and a brother of my paternal grandfather. I loved to visit the great-uncle and -aunt with a small farm south of Little Rock, the brother of my maternal grandmother. It was like stepping back in time, and I'd beg to spend the night with them and get to experience what farm life had been like for a very long time.
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @KarenStrickholm
The one thing I would have liked least was the fact that the cows need you 365 days a year, so there are no weekends, holidays or vacations. -
William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse @KarenStrickholm Yes, that's something my spouse talks about. He grew up on a farm in northwest Minnesota, which combined grain-growing with maintaining a dairy, a herd of beef cows, chickens, hogs, and other livestock. Milking and feeding the cows was a 7-day-a-week job, 365 days in the year. Until he left for college, from the time he was old enough to be in the barn, he milked cows morning and night every day.
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @KarenStrickholm
Indeed! Once one cousin went into the Army, another went to college, and the other got married, my aunt & uncle had to hire a guy they knew, give him a place to live above their garage... and he wasn't reliable. So much for "family farms" (or family fishing boats, etc.) -
William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse @KarenStrickholm It's a life that requires real dedication and sacrifice, and if you don't raise a family of lots of children – 8 of them in my husband's family, a family his mother, who was one of 12, called a small family — you miss out on a lot of free, unremunerated labor.
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Karen Strickholmreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @lolonurse There is this whole thing in astrology - we are leaving the piscean age, and entering the aquarian age. 2,000 year cycle of Pisces was a time of building cities, of hierarchical structures - as seen in family, government, business. In the time of Aquarius, is is all about dominance of the individual. So for ex, instead of climbimg a corporate ladder, business will get done through loose alliances of individuals working on specific projects. Have article, will try to find!
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Karen Strickholmreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @lolonurse You could do it! Basically, you grab the teat and squeeze it in you hand feom the top down. There, that's it!
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Karen Strickholmreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @lolonurse That is such a good point, that labor was essential to running a farm back in the day.
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @KarenStrickholm
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse @KarenStrickholm I think that many people would definitely now see it as an outmoded pattern of child-rearing and of organizing families. It was taken for granted in the past because farm families did rely heavily on the labor of children in the family. And, of course, in strongly Catholic cultures like the one in which my spouse was raised, this was reinforced by religious teachings forbidding use of contraception and encouraging families to have as many children as "God" sent.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Karen Strickholm last edited by
@KarenStrickholm @lolonurse Yes, it was key, I think. My grandparents all grew up on farms, one in a family of 15 children of whom only 10 lived to adulthood, one in a family of 12 children, and one in a family of 11 children. I think the labor of all those children was essential on those farms. In the next generation when the tie to farm life ended, families stopped being anywhere near that size.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Karen Strickholm last edited by
@KarenStrickholm @lolonurse I'd try, but am so unhandy, not sure how I'd do! I think I may have already told you a story my grandmother used to tell, about feeling so abashed in the presence of her well-educated sister-in-law Frances. As my grandmother milked one evening, Frances stood with her watching in the barn. As they talked, my grandmother told Frances she felt so inferior to her, with her education, and Frances replied, Look at what you can do that I can't! You can milk a cow.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Karen Strickholm last edited by
@KarenStrickholm @lolonurse Thanks for explaining that to me — I know very little about the world of astrological thinking.
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @KarenStrickholm
Just sing yourself the song Age of Aquarius -
Karen Strickholmreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @lolonurse Also if I recall correctly, they were instructed to have more kids additionally to help grow the church. That is such Piscean age thinking! ️
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Karen Strickholmreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @lolonurse I find it to be enormously rich in symbology, like another language but a language of images and signs with complex meaning, like ️ for Virgo has an enormous battalion of connotations attached to it, and additional meaning depending on its location, and how it sits related to the other signs, planets, and celestial real estate. The astrologer is a storyteller who processes all this symbology and weaves it into a s5ory about a person, a situation, an era of time.