But "socialism" is a scary word

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Those still to be solved problems may also be the result of governments. Those problems would likely shrink (albiet be replaced by others) when there aren't global systems of power and exploitation pushing to keep extracting resources from a corrupted Global South, polluting as processed by an overworked Asia, into commodities to sell to underpaid and liminally employed citizens of the Global North for them to destress and feel a fleeting sense of meaning in our increasingly atomised societies.

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It's a good point. One that is true to some extent for communism as well. If we were operating in a system that was less efficient as extracting resources and using them for production, we would conceivably get more out of the resources we have.

Unfortunately in practice it didn't work that well because the resources under communism were just used less efficiently and in a more polluting way which negated a lot of the gains. The net result was just less benefit getting to the end user.

The other issue is that if one country is operating inefficiently and there is another country operating efficiently, inevitably the other country will overtake the first, as we saw in the Cold War. So such a system would need to be enforced pretty strictly on a worldwide level least it get beaten by a system more streamlined for production and militaristic endeavors.

For anarchy, enforcement isn't strong enough to not get taken over by another system (or at least the requirement for personal buy in of all in the system is too high to be practical)

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Memes are supposed to be funny. I didn't laugh at this

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I agree with all your points on Communism. At least in terms of how it's been implemented, at least in name, by the Soviet Union and the PRC it has been as extractivist and imperialist as Capitalist nations.

Though one can't really divorce the conditions in countries such as Nigeria or Bangladesh from Capitalism. The Global North's standard of living requires the conditions there to exist, the Socialist with Totalitarian Characteristic nations at least keep their poor conditions mostly in house (albiet with some local imperialism, and the PRC has recently started expanding outside it's borders though mostly infrastructure and resource acquisition so far.)

They're not quite two sides of the same coin as the goals for growth are expressly different but neither cares for social connections, a sense of belonging, society in the real, let alone the environment.

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That's why you need to define the term. Here's the first result I got when I searched for a definition of capitalism.

An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development occurs through the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.

Can commerce occur in other systems? Of course it can. It has, it does, it will continue to do so.

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Yes, some people will try to twist any type of system to benefit themselves. That's true, and it's also true that capitalism celebrates those evil motherfuckers, whereas some other forms of government don't.

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So I can reduce anything complex to a misrepresentation, tweet it, and claim "well, you know what I mean right? I don't have enough characters to express my actual belief, so this is fine". Got it.

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Memes are not supposed to be funny. Them being funny has just become a side effect if memes.

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The most boomer take I've ever heard about memes

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This looks more like a prompt to an AI meme generator than am actual meme.

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I mean... If you say so. But I guess you've never seen any political memes that dunk on the opposition, or "so relatable" memes, or memes with encouraging themes...

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I'm saying it's a consequence of the format. Not the subject. Which I clearly stated. The whole context is that the format limits the interaction and in essence is part of the enshitification.

Socialism is scary and way worse than capitalism in many ways

What you're thinking of is a social democracy

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Hot take: I don't think those are memes either

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Then your personal take is in conflict with the definition of a meme.

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Meme - Media, usually humorous, which is copied and circulated online with slight adaptations, such as basic pictures, video templates, etc.

There are other similar definitions there that are in line with my opinion.

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That definition is not in line with your opinion. Textbook fallacy here. XD

Nowhere on the definition you just posted does it say a meme is required to be funny in order to fit the definition of a meme. It says that a meme is usually humorous, and not even as a central element to the main body of the definition.

You're very strongly and deliberately glossing that part over.

But speaking of definitions:

Merian Webster:

an amusing or interesting item (such as a captioned picture or video) or genre of items that is spread widely online especially through social media.
an idea, behavior, style, or usage that spreads from person to person within a culture

Cambridge Dictionary:

a cultural feature or a type of behaviour that is passed from one generation to another, without the influence of genes

American Heritage:

A unit of cultural information, such as a cultural practice or idea, that is transmitted verbally or by repeated action from one mind to another.
Any unit of cultural information, such as a practice or idea, that is transmitted verbally or by repeated action from one mind to another.
A self-propagating unit of cultural evolution having a resemblance to the gene (the unit of genetics).

I can keep going with Britannica, and Wikipedia itself, and Word.com, but these are all the top results of a simple search.

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The definitions you provided are associated with the meme definition coined by Richard Dawkins. The only definition that is somewhat inline with the one commonly referenced in internet culture is the 1st one under Merriam Webster.

Memes are often funny, but can also not be funny (i guess the better phrasing is some memes can have a different intention other than being funny) which is why i gave a special pass to "oh-so-relatable" memes. This post isn't a meme because it elicits no real response other than agreement or disagreement with the message. It might be a joke, but not all jokes are memes.

Colloquially speaking however, memes nowadays can be considered anything posted in image format with some text. Which is why, although not funny, wholesome memes are considered memes.

I'm enforcing the literal interpretation of memes.

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No you're not, or you would be enforcing Richard Dawkins' definition. So far nothing you've said disproves that definition of memes in relation to how they present themselves in Internet culture.

Do not conflate your personal opinion with enforcing an objective definition.

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Clearly we're at a standstill and this argument is going nowhere, so i think this is a good place to stop. Have a good day sir.