People focus on Hitler and Nazi leaders and the atrocious lethal lies they told to justify the mass murder of Jews.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Asbestos last edited by
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@wdlindsy Well said, and spot on.
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Escarpmentreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy I try to often point out as well: the stigmatization will *seem* justified. For example, today, the stigmatization of Jewish people for Israel's actions in Gaza seems like a righteous stand to take. Every generation has their fabricated reason why antisemitism is righteous and justified.
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Andrewreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy they tapped into a seam of distrust and fear and spun it up into hate. Curiously they didn’t initially follow through, the Nuremberg Laws were not passed until 1935. People started writing in asking when they were going to do something about the Jews as they said. The rest is history.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
In a powerful essay written with his usual lucidity, Timothy Snyder comments on Trump's "Hitlerian month" and the continued refusal of many American commentators to acknowledge the clear parallels between what Trump and Vance are doing and saying what Hitler did and said.
As Snyder notes, the myth of American exceptionalism forces us to pretend it can't happen to us, the good guys.
#Trump #Republicans #Hitler #Nazis #immigrants #BloodLibel #PoliticsofHate
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
But:
"The reason why we keep alive the memory of Nazi crimes is not because it could never happen here, but because something similar can always happen anywhere. That memory has to include the details of history, or else we will not recognize the dangers.
'Never again' is something that you work for, not something that you inherit."
#Trump #Republicans #Hitler #Nazis #immigrants #BloodLibel #PoliticsofHate
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
"It is fascist to start a political campaign from the choice of an enemy (this is the definition of politics by the most talented Nazi thinker, Carl Schmitt). It is fascist to replace reason with emotion, to tell big lies ('create stories,' as Vance says) that appeal to a sense of vulnerability and exploit a feeling of difference."
#Trump #Republicans #Hitler #Nazis #immigrants #BloodLibel #PoliticsofHate
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
"The fantasy of barbarians in our cities violating basic social norms serves to gird the Trump-Vance story that legal, constitutional government is helpless and that only an angry mob backed by a new regime could get things done.
It is worth knowing, in this connection, that the first major action of Hitler's SS was the forced deportation of migrants."
Snyder also dissects Trump's out-in-the-open antisemitism.
#Trump #Republicans #Hitler #Nazis #immigrants #BloodLibel #PoliticsofHate
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Piousunynreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Exploiting emotions of fear, using people of difference, is how this works. There is also, the need to exploit others in order to feel superior, using conjured lies seems most prevalent.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Piousunyn last edited by
@Piousunyn Yes, exploiting emotions of fear and ginning up hostility about differences perceived as negative is the name of the game.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Andrew last edited by
@serendip1959 Yes — every bit in the same way that Trump and Vance are doing right now.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Escarpment last edited by
@escarpment Yes, stigmatization works to motivate hate precisely because people see it as seemingly justified — due to the drumbeat of lying propaganda building on longstanding social tensions. It's about defining us, the ones holding the power over the stigmatized others, as the righteous and good, and those others as the bad. When we set up that dynamic, anything we do to "them" no matter how evil and barbaric is justified in our minds.
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@AGT Thank you very much.
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy
Or simply not want to get involved, so turn the other way & 'not see anything'.
My family had lots of friends and neighbors until Hitler... then suddenly, many of them no longer knew "Die Jüden". Some even apologized for no longer being able to talk to them. -
lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy
This is exactly what my grandfather told us from the time we were very young. I already was aware that it could happen again, here, or anywhere, by the time I was 5. I knew the dates my grandfather came to NY, then my grandmother & mother 6 months later. I knew which aunts & uncles & cousins had been murdered. A lot for a kid to learn, but it made me know how horrible hate is. -
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But there were also people who helped Jewish people. I had a cousin (German Jew) who escaped from CC, fled to Denmark & was part of the underground. You would never have imagined it - he was mild, quiet, gentle. He never spoke about it. I only knew because my grandmother told me. And the only Danish words he ever spoke were things meant to amuse us kids. -
Mastodon Migrationreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Thing is, these guys, mostly white males, are seeing their position of preference in society eroded. While most people see the lessening of deference to their priviledged status as a good thing, they are horrified by the prospect of competing on a more even playing field. So, they are easy targets for the hate merchants who promise them they are in fact superior and being unfairly deprived of their rightful place in society.
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Chris Turnbowreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
A person giving orders is just talking to themselves, without those willing to obey those orders...
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The Danes were super wonderful!!!
95% of Denmark's Jews were saved through dangerous evacuations by sea.
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20231002-gilleleje-denmarks-seaside-town-that-saved-danish-jewsRescue of the Danish Jews
The rescue of the Danish Jews In World War 2. Learn how a specific set of circumstances enabled nearly all of Denmark’s Jews to survive the Holocaust
Imperial War Museums (www.iwm.org.uk)
The Lesson of Denmark's Unparalleled Effort to Save Its Jewish Population During World War II
At the height of World War Two, Denmark dramatically saved the vast majority of its Jewish population from the Nazis
TIME (time.com)
Why 90 Percent of Danish Jews Survived the Holocaust | HISTORY
Denmark is the only nation in Western Europe that saved most of its Jewish population from the Nazis.
HISTORY (www.history.com)
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BassRck5000replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy
Inherent human nature...
Tribalism & Violence