People focus on Hitler and Nazi leaders and the atrocious lethal lies they told to justify the mass murder of Jews.
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Burnt Veggiesreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @andytiedye @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @Npars01 Now we just need about 100,000,000 more people who feel the same.
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๐๐ท๐ญ๐๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ญ๐๐ฎ ๐คreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Fight them how?
I'm not so worried about sore-loser Trumpies getting shooty around here. They would be badly outnumbered.
If they win, that is another story.
I have no idea how to fight them if they get the power of the government behind them.
What do we do when they come to take us away, as they have promised to do?
Going out like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid doesn't accomplish anything.
Getting hauled away to some camp to die of the heat doesn't either.
I have similar ancestry. My namesake was a general in the Revolution. At my age though, my only viable weapons are words.
@wdlindsy @Burnt_Veggies @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @Npars01
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Alarodreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Oh, I thought that was insanity. Thanks for clearing that up.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Alarod last edited by
@Alarod Do you think insanity is a self-evident term, really? And why the need for sarcasm?
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to ๐๐ท๐ญ๐๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ญ๐๐ฎ ๐ค last edited by
@andytiedye @Burnt_Veggies @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @Npars01 I tell myself that a first step in fighting them is not succumbing to their prescription for me, their command that I give up hope and give in.
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Alarodreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy When you get right down to it, โinsanityโ might actually be preferable to โbeing predisposed to toxic lies.โ Sane people do not have the excuse of madness to commit evil acts.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Alarod last edited by
@Alarod Sorry, but I've lost your point. It seems to be shrouded in a fog of hostility that's opaque to me. I have no idea why a discussion of the distinction between authoritarianism and insanity should devolve into such hostility โ so I confess I'm lost.
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Nicole Parsonsreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @andytiedye @Burnt_Veggies @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse
Republicans and Russia share the practice of Negative Nancy Narratives.
Impotence. Hopelessness. Despair. Shame. Parochial. Provincial. Insular. Selfishness. Vindictiveness. Petty jealousies. Revenge. Blameshifting. Unaccountability. Futility. Bigotry. Hate. Fear. Aimless violence.
Yet, despite all this, there are people who will vote Republican anyways.
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Burnt Veggiesreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @andytiedye @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @Npars01 Yes. I'm not the toughest guy on the planet, but I'm very stubborn. That has gotten me through many hardships.
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@wdlindsy @andytiedye @Burnt_Veggies @lolonurse @Npars01 Great point - just occurred to me that Tim Snyder talks about this approach by recommending that we โdonโt surrender in advance.โ
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๐๐ท๐ญ๐๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ญ๐๐ฎ ๐คreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
I'm not giving up hope as long as Kamala Harris has a chance of winning.
@wdlindsy @Burnt_Veggies @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @Npars01
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TCat - Vote Blue, Vote Harrisreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @Npars01 @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse
Yes, is there any doubt many Americans would cheerfully call ICE on their immigrant neighbors once the "mass deportations" begin?(and then complain how expensive gardeners and pool cleaners become)
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to TCat - Vote Blue last edited by
@TCatInReality @Npars01 @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse Absolutely. I had a talk recently with several neighbors about all of this, and we all said that our whole neighborhood would cease to function well at all if immigrants doing work in our neighborhood suddenly vanished. Both neighbors have Latin American women cleaning their houses. We had just had our house re-insulated โ all workers were hard-working Latin American men.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to ๐๐ท๐ญ๐๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ญ๐๐ฎ ๐ค last edited by
@andytiedye @Burnt_Veggies @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @Npars01 I think we have to keep hope alive. Otherwise, we let those who want to make us hopeless dehumanize us โ and that's exactly what they want.
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@lawyersgunsnmoney @andytiedye @Burnt_Veggies @lolonurse @Npars01 Yes, I had him in mind as I wrote my statement. Couldn't remember his exact phrase, but the concept remains powerful in my head. I find his analysis clear, illuminating, reasonable.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Burnt Veggies last edited by
@Burnt_Veggies @andytiedye @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @Npars01 I hear you. I sometimes think my inner canine persona is a feisty, stubborn little Scottish terrier.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Nicole Parsons last edited by
@Npars01 @andytiedye @Burnt_Veggies @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse Thank you. I didn't have a name for those narratives, and now I do. I like it!
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Kernoureplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @andytiedye @Burnt_Veggies @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @Npars01 While evil people scheme, those of goodwill should scheme even harder, and out-scheme them. Of all the preventable problems that beset mankind, the most glaring is a Trump presidency. Vote...like you've never voted before, America.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Kernou last edited by
@Tharpa @andytiedye @Burnt_Veggies @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @Npars01 Well-stated. I agree.