People focus on Hitler and Nazi leaders and the atrocious lethal lies they told to justify the mass murder of Jews.
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Alarodreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy โAuthoritarianโ is a polite way of saying โcriminally insane.โ Who physically abuses all of those children?
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๐๐ท๐ญ๐๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ญ๐๐ฎ ๐คreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Kamala Harris is running the best campaign in living memory. and JD, meanwhile, are spewing racism and hate nonstop. Yet it is still very very close.
If the spewers of hate actually win, or take over by force, I don't see how we can stay here.
It is good to have a plan, so we know where we could go if we have to.
Carribean island nations are very welcoming to retirees and remote workers (as we are a more reliable source of income than tourists).
@wdlindsy @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @Burnt_Veggies @Npars01
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to ๐๐ท๐ญ๐๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ญ๐๐ฎ ๐ค last edited by
@andytiedye @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @Burnt_Veggies @Npars01 I'm sure many folks are looking at alternatives longingly. Understandably so.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Alarod last edited by
@Alarod I suspect that many people inclined to authoritarianism aren't really insane. They're just predisposed to toxic lies that paint targeted segments of the population as "the enemy" to be vanquished or even killed.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Phoenix Gee ๐ฅฅ๐ด๐ธ๐ last edited by
@PhoenixGee @lawyersgunsnmoney @Npars01 @lolonurse Yes, this is how I see authoritarianism. This is an excellent statement.
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Burnt Veggiesreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @andytiedye @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @Npars01 I'm not going anywhere. I'm a 3rd (at least) generation veteran and I'm not going to give up my country to those assholes.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Burnt Veggies last edited by
@Burnt_Veggies @andytiedye @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @Npars01 I'm not going anywhere, either. For one thing, I'm too far advanced in years to make a move easily. For another, this is my country, too. Umpteen of my ancestors took part in the American Revolution, some of them giving their lives as they did so. I refuse to relinquish my country to the haters who want everyone but themselves to feel welcome here โ not without a fight.
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Burnt Veggiesreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @andytiedye @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @Npars01 Now we just need about 100,000,000 more people who feel the same.
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๐๐ท๐ญ๐๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ญ๐๐ฎ ๐คreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Fight them how?
I'm not so worried about sore-loser Trumpies getting shooty around here. They would be badly outnumbered.
If they win, that is another story.
I have no idea how to fight them if they get the power of the government behind them.
What do we do when they come to take us away, as they have promised to do?
Going out like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid doesn't accomplish anything.
Getting hauled away to some camp to die of the heat doesn't either.
I have similar ancestry. My namesake was a general in the Revolution. At my age though, my only viable weapons are words.
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Alarodreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Oh, I thought that was insanity. Thanks for clearing that up.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Alarod last edited by
@Alarod Do you think insanity is a self-evident term, really? And why the need for sarcasm?
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to ๐๐ท๐ญ๐๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ญ๐๐ฎ ๐ค last edited by
@andytiedye @Burnt_Veggies @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @Npars01 I tell myself that a first step in fighting them is not succumbing to their prescription for me, their command that I give up hope and give in.
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Alarodreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy When you get right down to it, โinsanityโ might actually be preferable to โbeing predisposed to toxic lies.โ Sane people do not have the excuse of madness to commit evil acts.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Alarod last edited by
@Alarod Sorry, but I've lost your point. It seems to be shrouded in a fog of hostility that's opaque to me. I have no idea why a discussion of the distinction between authoritarianism and insanity should devolve into such hostility โ so I confess I'm lost.
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Nicole Parsonsreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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Republicans and Russia share the practice of Negative Nancy Narratives.
Impotence. Hopelessness. Despair. Shame. Parochial. Provincial. Insular. Selfishness. Vindictiveness. Petty jealousies. Revenge. Blameshifting. Unaccountability. Futility. Bigotry. Hate. Fear. Aimless violence.
Yet, despite all this, there are people who will vote Republican anyways.
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Burnt Veggiesreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy @andytiedye @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @Npars01 Yes. I'm not the toughest guy on the planet, but I'm very stubborn. That has gotten me through many hardships.
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@wdlindsy @andytiedye @Burnt_Veggies @lolonurse @Npars01 Great point - just occurred to me that Tim Snyder talks about this approach by recommending that we โdonโt surrender in advance.โ
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๐๐ท๐ญ๐๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ญ๐๐ฎ ๐คreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
I'm not giving up hope as long as Kamala Harris has a chance of winning.
@wdlindsy @Burnt_Veggies @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @Npars01
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TCat - Vote Blue, Vote Harrisreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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Yes, is there any doubt many Americans would cheerfully call ICE on their immigrant neighbors once the "mass deportations" begin?(and then complain how expensive gardeners and pool cleaners become)