POV: It's January 19th

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I might be killed, but seeing the comments i feel like lemmy is getting too into the zone of umm like judging the action based on the person instead of judging the action/statement itself, yeah the US gov is a piece of shit, and also they probably don't have the peoples best interest in mind, but the act of banning tiktok, according to me, is a right move, i can see nd myself have felt the humongous mental impact it has on teens (like me) basically killing their attention span, and making them feel like they need to pick up their phone, heck kids cant read 10pages from their physics book, infact reading a page only thoroughly is a tough task for most of them, and i m not talking abt a few select cases, i can see this in 95% of kids (this is anecdotal tho), ever since i stopped using reels/tiktoks/shorts, i can feel my mind improving

Also the whole slew of misinformation and propaganda tiktok is, is another issue

Again I agree with ppl that the US doesn’t hv the ppls best interest, but i do feel this might help atleast some ppl break their addiction, so many I know are aware they r addicted but can’t stop, banning the app altogether might help

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The thing with TikTok is almost all americans on it have gravitated away from other platforms because it has more to offer. I don't think there's a large demographic on TikTok who don't precisely understand why they use TikTok over other platforms. I also believe this is why they want to force TikTok to sell, they want to have it exist as a platform but with new management.

If TikTok doesn't sell and it does get banned, I almost guarantee the demographic will quickly find themselves on another, likely Chinese owned, platform. This will still be a win for Congress as they'll have fractured TikTok and weakened the demographic as a whole.

Time will tell.

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I have a completely de-googled phone. No meta apps. No google apps. But I do have RedNote. Long live the CCP!

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Ah, I also have the Huawei App Store and Huawei services for banking apps.

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so use a VPN?

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Companies would simply be punished by the law

can you show me any recent examples of this happening with any effectiveness?

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It is and there is tons of proof.

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So are the xinny apps

Two things can be bad at once you dipshit

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Yup, much better to let a foreign evil government have your data than the local evil government that actually has control where you live.

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Fair point that it hasn't been rescinded, but I'm struggling to find any convictions based on this law or citations of this law ever being used in court, so it really does not seem relevant nowadays. If anyone can dig up any and reference them here, I'll gladly edit this comment to reflect that information.

There are laws from 1700s that haven't been rescinded but also bear no relevance to the modern day. California just changed old legal language stating that marriage was defined as being between a man and woman, but gay marriage has been legal for a long time now.

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Which is why you linked so much of this proof, eh?

To date, there is no public evidence that Beijing has actually harvested TikTok’s commercial data for intelligence or other purposes.

TikTok collects a lot of data. But that’s not the main reason officials say it’s a security risk | CNN Business

After TikTok CEO Shou Chew testified for more than five hours on Thursday before a Congressional committee, one thing was clear: US lawmakers remain convinced that TikTok is an urgent threat to national security.

CNN (www.cnn.com)

Victor

Where? Just curious.

Victor

Google doesn't push right wing propaganda to my phone. Do they only do that to US citizens?

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Technical possibilities to circumvent a law are not part of my argument here.

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I'm Canadian - 2 weeks before the election I started getting about an article per day pushed to my Android phone, for a few days.

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TikTok will not be banned. People are delusional.

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This.

Not a big fan of Tik Tok but fuck this fedposting bootlicker OP.

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Actually it's "Freedom (terms and conditions apply)".

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I was explaining my fish preferences.

I tried to hold on to the red snapper but I took what was in the box.

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I don't use tiktok because I don't want to get addicted personally, and I know a few people who borderline are.

That's not the point though, not the real one anyway. Even if this ban was going through with good intentions, it doesn't actually solve anything. Everyone will just find a new PRISM-compatable app to get addicted to. The government's "action/statement itself" is precisely the problem. If they passed a law that forbid certain addicting behaviors, and TikTok ran afoul of that law, then I'd likely be in support, because it bans those behaviors in general. But that's not what's happening here, instead the government is targeting the individual company, so it's pretty clear to me that the cited privacy and addiction concerns are only an excuse. Don't take this combatively, I just think this is important, but I think that ironically you're the one who needs to separate the action from the actors. I think you're underestimating how dangerous a precedence this sets.