POV: It's January 19th

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As does all the American owned networks. That’s not the reason. Not pushing American propaganda is the reason.

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And the US social media companies are filled with spooks.

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The ~~Chinese~~ _American _ government is a tyrannical undemocratic dictatorship and I'm OK with not tolerating them or their propaganda wing.

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I didn't say tiktok is the bastion of free speech. They only do this in the Palestinian case because it does not serve them anything to be against palestine. We can criticise one party without making the other one some kind of "moral hero" of a story.

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Cuz logical fallacy commie dibshits

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Bibi did. The guy who would be in prison for corruption charges without Hamas being retards. HURRDURR

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Factually untrue, the only person who has control of what the algorithm shows you on any social media is the end user. So say8ng that it is used to spread propaganda (which that's super vague), is blatantly false. Pretending otherwise is just being willingly ignorant to how the technology works. Hell, a 6 year old understands how the algorithm works and how to shape it. Plus, US based users have their data stored on US servers hosted by Oracle, China has no access to it. Do two seconds of research and you will see that I'm correct

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surveillance capitalism…

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I don't think that means what you think it means

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Here is a video going over the bill in detail https://youtu.be/tMe3ZdWUnU8?si=-TSKsL2RW2wfzMsq

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These are very loose terms. Pretty much every major website saves IP addresses when you create an account (to prevent abuse/spam detection). And you can get location info from the IP address. Hence the first condition would be true for all of those websites.

Next, any website/app that builds a recommendation system will save user interactions to build the "algorithm". So every social media with an algorithm will fall into this category.

With enough bending of terminology, we might be able to prove that the lemmy also collects user data (although it will be really hard cuz the algo here is based on upvotes and time posted iirc). And "large amount" part is just legal filler words.

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You fixed nothing, just added some whataboutisim nonsense.

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Both are bad, one is worse.

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LMAO, The company that makes the algorithm has control over what that algorithm "weighs" it's not that hard for them to tweak the values so it "weighs" whatever propaganda or content they want to push more of much higher than other content.

It's true, the end user does have some influence on the algorithm, but when they have it tweaked to "weigh" pro-CCP or pro-Right-wing trash much higher than other content it doesn't take much to end up falling back. For example, watching part of single pro-Trump video would make the algorithm push much more Trump trash where it would take 5 "normal" fully watched videos to continue showing "normal" videos.

And that's assuming the average user is even aware enough to influence it to that degree, which they don't.

Plus, US based users have their data stored on US servers hosted by Oracle, China has no access to it.

Yea, the data is stored in the US, but it still influences the TikTok US algorithm (because they have a separate algorithm for China ofc) which is still wholly controlled outside of the US

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Which is a comparison that makes complete sense. When you say that someone is leading the way, you are clearly referring to them being at the forefront at the time when they were leading the way. Any system that was a trail blazer 100+ years ago should be outdated by now, unless progress stopped or went backwards in the meantime.

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Eventually but my partner still saw the genocide there.

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It's really a combination of all of the above.

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Since this is the place for the most serious discussion:

If US lawmakers focused on protecting American's privacy with some sensible privacy laws coughGDPR equivalent cough, we could avoid pulling out the ban hammer to play whack-a-mole on these companies.

Companies would simply be punished by the law for being malicious or irresponsible with your data, forcing industries to take privacy seriously and make investments in protecting and not leaking it.

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There is sooooo much weird conspiracy shit in these comments. The government is banning TikTok becuase they collect too much data and the Chinese government could eaisly get access to all of it. The correct thing to do would be to regulate data collection but that would be problematic for Google, Meta, Microsoft, Apple..etc etc... so instead they just ban TikTok. All this TikTok tefusing to spread deep state US govt propaganda horse shit is a bit past nuts.