@tieflingdio @therivercrow @Dennis5891 I hear you, and yeah these policy changes are terrible.

Matt Baer

@tieflingdio @therivercrow @Dennis5891 I hear you, and yeah these policy changes are terrible. Goes without saying, on a personal level, I think Meta is a terrible company and always has been.

Sadly they're in the fediverse now. But the Social Web Foundation is just bringing orgs (like us @write_as) together to coordinate on the protocol, work with users, and so on. E.g. we might finally see support for long-for text here, which helps everyone! 1/

Matt Baer

@tieflingdio @therivercrow @Dennis5891 So I think that removing our support for the SWF would be counter-productive, and just ineffective for facing all the threats that are going to come from this next admin and toadies like Zuck.

I understand if you decide to leave. But my focus is on keeping our independent slice of the web on @write_as, and working with others to build these spaces, like the fediverse, that Meta can never own.

Diotima

@matt @therivercrow @Dennis5891 @write_as

Def not telling you to do, but Meta being a member of the SWF offers one of the worst actors a seat at the table, and like... that's exactly how they'll undermine the fedi if they can. They are already doing it, really, by playing the "oh gosh not federating fully yet" game to undermine users.

Working with Meta to counter Meta is an interesting strategy but I don't think its a winning one. Facebook is actively blocking open access; why do we think Threads won't do the same if they become dominant?

But, we are all welcome to diff opinions.

Matt Baer

@tieflingdio @therivercrow @Dennis5891 oh for sure. I mean from the inside, it's just talking with their devs to ensure everyone interoperates. They're a giant company who has to leap through legal hurdles for the tiniest changes etc so it's extremely slow-moving.

I'm cautious based on their entire history, but I think the fediverse is pretty resilient today. A big player like Meta investing in the network is at least moving things forward when they haven't in years.

Matt Baer

@tieflingdio @therivercrow @Dennis5891 And to me, that's what's important. The rest of us can take that momentum and keep building the fediverse we want to see.

So for now, I think it's worthwhile to play nicely. But as soon as that changes, of course will adjust accordingly. I'm watching as always, and want to make sure everyone feels comfortable writing on the platform. So please feel free to continue sharing thoughts / feelings on everything.