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Pavel Chichikov

I really don't think you are smart enough. lol

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I really don't think you would know

Pavel Chichikov

you've given me all the proof I would need lmfao.

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Yes I have

Fooled me. You wouldn’t have said that if you had much experience with guns because it’s patently untrue to anyone who does

save your "civilian ar-15s aren't automatic or burst fire so they aren't technically assault rifles or military weapons" nonsense

What? This is true but that’s not my point at all. I simply don’t care if they are military weapons or not. The entire point of the second amendment for the citizenry to lose a threat against tyranny, which could include the military. Civilian ownership of effective weapons is part and parcel with that.

You’re not arguing with me, you’re arguing with some preconceived idea of who you assume I am. That already says a lot about your viewpoint.

When was the last time a bunch of rennaisance faire nerds turned on the news and saw that someone else had just murdered 30 kids in a school dressed up in the same kind of costume they all like to wear

Once again. What? You’re acting like school shooters all show up wearing BDUs, NODs and plate carriers which is just wildly wrong.

But, even if we accept for a moment that were true, normal people with healthy viewpoints are capable of separating themselves and their motivations from bad people who just happen to wear the same clothing. I wouldn’t throw out my favorite t-shirt just because someone did something terrible wearing the same type of shirt. Neither would me wearing that shirt somehow normalize shootings like you seem to imagine it would.

If someone went on a stabbing spree with a shun chefs knife I wouldn’t turn around and throw out my favorite kitchen knife because it’s the same model. Nor would I be normalizing stabbings by continuing to chop onions with my favorite knife.

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"I know how to think critically"
insults and belittles

Pavel Chichikov

"I work in health care"
Exhibits the intelligence of a ostrich

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65% Stopped without a gun

34% Stopped with a gun

15ish% of Americans carry sometimes, around 7% always.

Gotta be honest, those numbers are looking pretty good if only 7% of people always carry but 34% of shootings were stopped by one of those 7%. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that a good majority of the remaining 65% weren't stopped with a gun because nobody there had one at the time. Same for the ones that weren't stopped by any bystanders armed or otherwise.

In at least one of those police just stood outside with theirs for two hours.

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How so? Why don't you have a real argument instead of hurling crap insults, acid man?

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Of course, if you go from serial robber to serial murderer, that brings a whole lot more heat. Probably best to just get like, a job and stuff, less people get shot painting houses.

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You ever try swinging it in your hallway?

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I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that a good majority of the remaining 65% weren’t stopped with a gun because nobody there had one at the time.

And yet there is no way of knowing that, so you're just making an unprovable assertion. I showed data.

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No, but I can always choke up on my grip, or swing vertical with it. IDGAF if someone is in the hallway, they can have whatever they want out there.

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Hence why I said it would probably be a huge waste of time and money. What you've said is exactly why I don't have a firearm.

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Well done, great responses

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All of your responses are being downvoted and for good reason. Maybe you need to rethink some things

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You are just another gun apologist doing his thing. Must be great to ignore all the suffering because "guns are toys boys".

It is clear people like you can't be trusted with a butter knife let alone and actual weapon. You scoff at a million women raped by gun point like it ain't no big deal.

You can tell them your sorry. In fact we will line them up one at a time and you can let each one know it wasn't the gun that did it. By the time you tell them all there will be millions more raped.

You can't apologize to dead ones though so perhaps you can look their kids in the eyes and tell them it wasn't the gun that killed your mother.

You doubt my assertion? I doubt you care about actual researched papers or facts. I doubt there is anything anyone could say to change your mind because you will refuse to believe it.

It is pretty rich you call me disturbed when everything I said was factual including a very personal experience. I am sorry you feel threatened by the fact that women are disproportionately abused and murdered by the thing you view as a toy.

I live in Alaska where real men have guns as tools not toys so I look at you like you are particularly pathetic. The fact that you fantasize about identifying your target before you kill them says all about your fucked up wanna-be military mindset.

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Rethink that you are another gun apologist? Hard pass on that goober.

Pavel Chichikov

reread your stuff. if you can't understand how it proves your own stupidity, then you really are hopelessly lost.

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Only insults then? Ok.

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Well, good luck with that!