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Never said that. You are taking everything I say and twisting it.

The man is a murderer, the intruders are burglars, everyone sucks here. That is the only point I have ever made in this thread.

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Guns - Divisions by zero

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I’m not saying one is worse than the other, rather that both fucked around and found out.

Except it isn't, you keep saying he had the right for the first few shots the jury found he did not.

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Ah yes. The true red blooded American solution; the only way to solve a serious problem is to escalate it out of proportion.

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And I am definitively saying the murderer is worse than his victims

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Honestly, not much difference between that and chihuahua. Fight to kill out of fear.

Yeah. Everyone has a right to pursue a safe place to be.

If someone or something puts me in an unsafe enough position, I might have to go through them instead of around them to get to safety.

There's no shame in that. It's also nothing to be proud of. It just is.

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No it is not. Even the one you linked is from a poll. The CDC pulled the original numbers for DGUs because they're basically impossible to obtain properly and the CDC didn't like that it didn't paint guns in a bad light

Here is the study that was requested by the cdc and by Obama...

Read "Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence" at NAP.edu

Read chapter Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence: In 2010, more than 105,000 people were injured or killed in the Uni...

The National Academies Press (nap.nationalacademies.org)

Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed (Cook and Ludwig, 1996; Kleck, 2001a). Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010).
National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. 2013. Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence. Washington, DC: The National Academies Press. https://doi.org/10.17226/18319.

This part talks about the study you directly linked, which states that respondents were not ansed specifically about defensive gun use.

On the other hand, some scholars point to a radically lower estimate of only 108,000 annual defensive uses based on the National Crime Victimization Survey (Cook et al., 1997). The variation in these numbers remains a controversy in the field. The estimate of 3 million defensive uses per year is based on an extrapolation from a small number of responses taken from more than 19 national surveys. The former estimate of 108,000 is difficult to interpret because respondents were not asked specifically about defensive gun use.
National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. 2013. Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence. Washington, DC: The National Academies Press. https://doi.org/10.17226/18319.

So no, it's not, it's also lacking heavily in studies...and as I said why one of reasons the CDC pulled the numbers.

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You sound like a responsible gun owner and not a gun nut.

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Agreed. Never said he wasn’t.

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Anyways, that's how i killed my daughter.

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I find this kind of “appeal to the system when it agrees with me” strange

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Why is arming yourself in self defense escalating it out of proption when leftists do it?

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I'm not saying one is worse than the other

You

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TL;DR

Ammosexuals will write down novels trying to justify their urge to gun down people.

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I wouldn't mind having to kill anyone. It would definitely give me joy and excitement although I don't actively hope I'll get to use my gun.

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Way to ignore the data kid.

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lol

lmao, even

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You would have thought that after January 6th/George Floydd protests, and the lack of justice that followed both, would have finally shown liberals they cannot rely on cops and the "justice" system for personal protection.

Yet here we are.

My body, my choice to protect it the way i wish. Fuck off gun grabbers. Prisoners give up all their rights and yet they are still not safe. I refuse to be your prisoner.

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The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun

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Thanks for the recommendation

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When seconds count, the police are minutes away.