I love the @fediversereport, it's consistently well written and packed with insightful bits.
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> ActivityPub clearly doesn't provide a good experience on single-user instances
This seems to be one of if not the most clear failure(s) of AP/masto. I've not done it myself but from what I've heard it just isn't worth it for anything other than a weird blog with comments like system, for which there's wordpress now (and ghost coming) ... which I personally find rather disappointing.
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@astrojuanlu @fediversereport aww thank you!
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@maegul @fediversereport That's the thing, single-user is good for... write-only/broadcast stuff. For microblogging it's meh, you never see "trends", you always miss the conversation (every toot has 1 boost and 0 responses?? at least @phanpy has the "switch instance" trick, I use it all the time). It's one of the reasons I had to silence Aral, his aggressive push for 1-person instances was putting me off. It's just not up to date with how the protocols currently work. https://social.juanlu.space/@astrojuanlu/112968434182161748
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@astrojuanlu @maegul @fediversereport @phanpy
just remembering your question from yesterday maegul, and now Im curious to what extent maybe its the opposite: the friction of small instances (missing half the replies/engagement nrs) might just have inhibited the formation of cliquey behavior and what were seeing on bsky is more to an expected baseline when the entire conversation is visible to everyone?
no idea if this is true, just musing
maegul (@maegul.net)
How much of the bsky pattern is attributable to its early invite-only era creating a more cliquey social dynamic that has (perhaps) persisted?
Bluesky Social (bsky.app)
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@laurenshof @astrojuanlu @fediversereport @phanpy
Yes maybe. Just the instances themselves and the “reply clipping” and even defederstions they perform may have played a role too.
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@laurenshof @astrojuanlu @fediversereport @phanpy
Also, AFAIU, is probably fair to call out mastodon the platform here. I imagine single user instances could have been made better, and to some extent have on platforms like akkoma (??)
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Kuba Suder • @mackuba.eu on 🦋replied to Juan Luis last edited by
@astrojuanlu @maegul I'm on a single-person instance, and I wouldn't move because I like the "my home is my castle" kind of feeling, but there are definitely a lot of downsides, and I wouldn't recommend it to someone who isn't aware of those and isn't willing to live with them…
It's fine for following a bunch of people and reading what they post & the discussions below, but it's useless for looking outside (hashtag feeds, trends, search etc.), so I use mastodon.social for that.
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maegulreplied to Kuba Suder • @mackuba.eu on 🦋 last edited by
Without a relay, isn’t it the case that you will only see replies and discussions from people you follow?
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Kuba Suder • @mackuba.eu on 🦋replied to maegul last edited by
@maegul @astrojuanlu under posts from people I follow, I think I see all replies, I definitely see a lot of replies from people I don't follow (don't ask me how this works…). But when someone I follow boosts a post from someone I don't, then I generally don't see replies there.
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Juan Luisreplied to Kuba Suder • @mackuba.eu on 🦋 last edited by
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So, to be clear, you see a post from someone you follow, and someone else, who you also follow, has replied to this post, but you do not see this reply (at least some of the time).
TBH, that feels unintentional. As in something "slipped through the cracks" and didn't come through to your server when it should have.
Which is also a negative side effect of the confusing behaviours of federation, its actual failures/bugs can become hard to spot.
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@maegul Sorry, I clarify.
I see posts of people I follow (obvs) and replies to those posts by people I follow (kind of obvious too) and I _think_ I see some replies from people I don't follow but are known by my server somehow (?).
But definitely I don't see "all replies" under posts (addressing what @mackuba said earlier)
Paraphrasing the Zen of Python: "if it's hard to explain, it's a bad idea"
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> Paraphrasing the Zen of Python: "if it's hard to explain, it's a bad idea"
Absolutely! Big lesson for the fediverse in general.