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Pidgin is a client, not a specific protocol.

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Sure, it looks great. But it doesn't have the popularity of Matrix, which is already less popular than XMPP which has enjoyed decent adoption since it's inception.

suoko

So Snapchat is lossinh money with its service?
I don't think so

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I know, I just remember I used to use it with jabber xmpp but I think after everyone got gtalk and then everyone got cellphones everyone moved away from those types of clients

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We use Open Collective to fund the instance and it has been pretty smooth sailing. Would definitely recommend to anyone running an instance.

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Was started by the Friendica developer but it is more of a federated CMS where Friendica is more of a social network, although they share similar DNA and can do some similar things. They are now being developed by different teams so will tend to diverge more over time.

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Let's hope this helps dansup get past the recent unpleasantness and he can delegate more. His output is amazing but burnout is a concern.

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Fun fact, Google Talk and Facebook used to be compatible with XMPP.

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incorrect

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I think you may have misunderstood what I wrote.

Snapchat makes money through showing you ads. RCS is something very different. It is not social media. RCS has no ads in the same way that SMS has no ads.

Telecom providers have to spend money to support RCS. Telecom providers don't want to spend money on RCS if it's not going to earn them money. They believe RCS is not going to earn them money because the customers aren't interested. The customers aren't interested because they can already chat with each other through social media and chat apps.

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Care to elaborate? Genuinely i interested as to why that is

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What are some good examples of apks to use in regards to this use-case?

astro_ray

I don't know if you know about it, but there's this new community [email protected]
They got some nice discussion about how to on-board more people on here.

suoko

So google is just loosing money with their Jibe servers?
There is no ads there.
I guess they can make money with RCS business accounts if they wanted.

But let's get back to the fediverse question, google manages RCS by providing jibe servers for mobile operators right? Because they were lazy to .manage it (and they're not that techy when it comes to servers probably, they're good with antenna and similar mostly)
Can't anyone offer a jibe server for any mobile operator?
Google is not a global mobile provider at all.
What secret law is behind RCS?

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Google is not making a profit from RCS, but they don't have to be loosing money either. I don't know the price Google is charging telecom providers. It's either very cheap or for free. That's why many telecom providers choose Google's solution. I believe that Google is treating it as an investment. I assume that Google plan to charge more in the future or that they want data from the users. Maybe both.

Telecom providers know how to do all of this themselves, but it's going to cost more money than using Google's solution. Someone else can absolutely start providing RCS to telecom providers but they will have a hard time trying to sell it to telecom providers if they're not cheaper than Google.

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Simplex is more like Briar or Cwtch

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What is Sup ?

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Not too much. Sup with you?

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Nice one
Anyways, what is this "Sup" that people keep talking about ?
Is it another federated platform ?

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Thanks for being a good sport. In these trying times we have to cherish every genuine updog moment we find ourselves in.

It's federated encrypted messaging