He's not wrong.

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You made a blanket statement. There are exceptions.

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I upvoted both of these because chaos

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Schmidt?

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TVs very much so

Very much so... what? A quick glance, they're expensive AF (riddled with "smart" features and now AI, gigantic on top of 4K etc) too.

Sure I guess there's actually a chance a few impulsively bought one at a big-box store (or "on sale" for the full price of a non-OLED TV), but it's more likely they bought "LED" which is marketing speak for local dimming (not even close to OLED turning pixels off).

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Did you know that characters in video games have an electrical current to keep them alive just like real people?

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somebody said this at work yesterday, and now it's here

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I'm not sure sub-£550 ($700) with reasonable sizes (42"), really counts at expensive AF anymore. But each to their own.

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Pancakes aren’t…..

No…. pancakes are real. And they’re perfect.

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Do they use more than dark places in video games? Like if you are in dark room in the game, and you turn on a lamp in the game, are you using more electricity?

My guess is no but I am not a programmer or electrician nor a physicist.

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I'd guess if you have an OLED panel it would because black pixels are 'off' it would consume somewhat of more electricity but I do not know

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If the light is not dynamic at all, no. If it has stuff like dynamic shadows it will require more processing power to render frames than if the light was off, which probably makes the CPU/GPU draw slightly more power

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Huh. Is eternity (the app I'm using) finally broken? Did not even realize I double posted.

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Playing a fireplace video produces real heat.

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if you have an oled display, then if a video game is brighter it costs more energy because the LEDs turn on more.

if have an lcd display, there's a backlight that always has the same brightness and crystals blocking the light, which makes the image. meaning a brighter scene doesn't take more power, since the backlight doesn't use more energy.

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not that specific. most modern displays are oled, and most efficient games use prebaked lighting. the average gamer probably plays on an oled display, and has a game with prebaked lighting.

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On an LCD display, the backlight is always on but the crystals need power to align and let the backlight through.

A full white screen would in theory use more electricity than a full black screen. How much more, I don't actually know but I would like to know more info in it.

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Alright sure, maybe. But LCD HDTVs are ubiquitous, and most people probably aren't looking to buy more displays. In a similar vein, early 4K adopters probably don't have reason to buy a new display... if they can just be happy with what they already have.

It is good enough to be the last thing to upgrade, especially looking at the chunk of cost it'd be when lumped in with PC/console cost. (also, selling is probably not for everyone even if less-modern HDTVs had any resale value, and at ~42" you might even not get any quick takers even if free)

A quick look at the Steam survey, ~56% of users are still using 1080p and ~20% are using 1440p. If OLED is almost exclusive to 4K and/or 240Hz many will likely continue to ignore it.

Also if you don't have the hardware+content, it also doesn't really make sense. That's additional cost, and you may even need to look specifically for content created that works well with OLED (if not created with it in mind). Broadband availability/cost and streaming enshittification may be factors here too.

So I see this as a long way off for mass adoption, similar to VR.

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I guess if you disable the computer's fan, yes.

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Greetings fellow time-traveler. What model of entropy-reversing computer fan do you use?

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A few things:

I disagree that LCD is good enough, especially for living room gaming. It is the best and most significant upgrade I've ever done, by a long way.
In terms of Steam Survey, again no arguments from me, oled monitors are rare, I was arguing that TVs are not.
There isn't such thing as content that works well with OLED, everything looks significantly better, especially with HDR, which almost everything supports and has done for a significant period of time.
As someone that has been using an OLED TV for 5+ years, burn-in really isn't an issue, there's not a trace of burn-in on either of my TVs, or any of my portable devices with OLEDs. The only time I've ever experienced burn-in on an OLED was a Nexus 5, which is so long ago, that it's almost irrelevant. In the case of the Nexus 5, the only reason it ended up with burn-in is because I enabled the developer option to keep the screen on at all times, resulting in the status bar burning into the screen. All modern OLED displays take burn-in into account and run screen cleaning occasionally, which isn't noticeable as the screen just appears a black. So unless someone is running a news channel with a static logo 24/7 on the screen, they're not going to have issues with burn-in. It's worth noting I have an OLED TV on my desk too (that one was indeed on sale, for ~400 IIRC), and that has static content such as an Apple logo (work laptop ), on it for hours each day, with no burn-in.