Should there be a governance organization for the Fediverse?
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But I don't think there should or maybe even can be a single org governing all parts of the Fediverse, saying how the protocols and software packages can work, which people and communities and platforms are allowed to connect, what can be done and said.
You can't spell Fediverse without "diverse".
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Je ne suis pas gothreplied to Evan Prodromou last edited by
@evan did this poll stem from something you saw or heard? Or was it "just" you wondering about the fediverse's opinion?
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@evan missed the poll but my answer is there should not be an organization to govern the fediverse; there should however be at least one organization to enable many forms of governance in the fediverse
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Darius Kazemi last edited by [email protected]
@darius I think encouraging various forms of governance on the Fediverse is awesome. I also think we're probably going to see many, many more offline entities like universities, local governments, postal services, and enterprises setting up their own instances. What do you think an Organization to Promote Fediverse Governance Models would do, though?
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Je ne suis pas goth last edited by
@jenesuispasgoth I don't understand the point of your scare quotes or smiley emoticon. I think you should decide what it is you want to ask, and ask it directly.
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@evan great question. I think: build resources for groups that want to govern (like the IFTAS library does for moderation), build tools for governance (third party and supporting PRs to major software, again kinda like IFTAS here), and advocate as necessary in standards groups for the needs of groups that want to self govern (just like.... okay these parentheticals are getting repetitive)
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@darius So, I get that, but I think it's more likely that we'd see advocacy for particular governance structures. Say, a Federation of University Social Networks, which focuses on the needs of those kinds of instances, and a different Alliance of Cooperative Social Platforms, and so on. Unsupported crystal ball prediction; take it for what it's worth.
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Je ne suis pas gothreplied to Evan Prodromou last edited by
@evan sorry if I wasn't clear, there really was no hidden question. I really was wondering if that was just you wondering, or if it was in reaction to something you read or heard wrt the fediverse (something I myself hadn't read or heard).
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@jenesuispasgoth I can say that there is a big section on SocialHub about governance. A lot of people were concerned that the Social Web Foundation was an effort to set up a governance organization. Also, Bluesky is governed by a single startup. All these things got me thinking about Fediverse-wide governance. Does that answer your question?
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Je ne suis pas goth last edited by
@jenesuispasgoth oh, cool. I didn't have much of an agenda, except that I somewhat disagree with this idea, and I wanted to see some discussion about it.
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@evan I’m curious- how do shared deny lists get implemented in a manner that prevents abuse? In other words, what prevents an “Elon” from inserting people he doesn’t like into the shared deny list, effectively booting them from the Fediverse?
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@BrianJohnson that's a governance issue, right? I mean, how do we make *any* collective decisions without someone hijacking them?
I think some techniques are: start with multilateral decision-making structures, add checks and balances, and have external auditing processes that demand transparency and detect abuse.
