Happy #GlobalSwitchDay
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True which is why WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger and Telegram still reign supreme. Don't forget that its a minute for each person I want to contact, why bother if I already have the phone number of everybody I know. SimpleX targets a different market than the previously mentioned Messengers and that's OK but it also means its a no-go for anyone outside that market. Signal on the other hand is targeting the same market and thus is a viable alternative and for that reason I could convince my friends and family including my grandmother to use it instead.
Also creating account require a minute or more.
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has anyone tried Friendica? is it devoid of people?
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Signal is not federated.
That’s what I said, dimwit.
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Jurisdiction is not that important. Even if it was in Switzerland it'd have to comply with international law enforcement and warrants. The key is that sure Signal is obliged to give out whatever data it has, but the point is that it doesn't have much useful data to give.
Oh and btw the same goes for instances of the fediverse (which are ran by volunteers you need to trust), and if they don't comply and the US government really wants to break into them they probably will find a way. Doesn't even need some complicated backdoors or anything it just needs to find an OPSEC slip-up, do some social engineering, arrest someone or at worst find a bug to exploit, and I can guarantee that unless you have some serious security wizards running your instance you're not beating the FBI there and if the FBI is really persistent and focused on you for some reason then the wizards won't be enough you need state actors.
If your threat model actually includes the US government (aka you're actually in danger and not some paranoia or just-in-case situation, be realistic with yourself) and there's credible threats you may be targeted by it or other governments then you're probably going to be using tor, briar, all that jazz, and wouldn't be on lemmy. If you're just some guy who just needs to message your family and shit Signal is perfectly fine, I can tell you that unless you're a serious threat to the government they won't waste resources cracking down ways to capture you via signal or whatever you use, even if you're a minority or activist, if not because you're not important enough then because they have other easier ways to do it.
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I mean maybe but you could also just say "we did some whacky shit here help us fix" and let the community help you in the effort.
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It feels pretty quiet here. At least going by active posts. They're often the same for a while. New is a bit better. Unless it's my expectations that are wrong?
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Interesting. Is there a client you could recommend for Android?
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A little, yeah, oddly enough.
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has anyone tried Friendica? is it devoid of people?
The UI is fucking awful and way too complex, so it's difficult to get anything done. I've tried two different instances and found them both to be unusable.
It's a shame because Friendica is way more powerful than most Fediverse platforms -- they leverage way more of ActivityHub's potential. But the UI needs to get sorted out before it's ready for mass adoption.
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Jurisdiction is not that important. Even if it was in Switzerland it'd have to comply with international law enforcement and warrants. The key is that sure Signal is obliged to give out whatever data it has, but the point is that it doesn't have much useful data to give.
Oh and btw the same goes for instances of the fediverse (which are ran by volunteers you need to trust), and if they don't comply and the US government really wants to break into them they probably will find a way. Doesn't even need some complicated backdoors or anything it just needs to find an OPSEC slip-up, do some social engineering, arrest someone or at worst find a bug to exploit, and I can guarantee that unless you have some serious security wizards running your instance you're not beating the FBI there and if the FBI is really persistent and focused on you for some reason then the wizards won't be enough you need state actors.
If your threat model actually includes the US government (aka you're actually in danger and not some paranoia or just-in-case situation, be realistic with yourself) and there's credible threats you may be targeted by it or other governments then you're probably going to be using tor, briar, all that jazz, and wouldn't be on lemmy. If you're just some guy who just needs to message your family and shit Signal is perfectly fine, I can tell you that unless you're a serious threat to the government they won't waste resources cracking down ways to capture you via signal or whatever you use, even if you're a minority or activist, if not because you're not important enough then because they have other easier ways to do it.
(oh btw "We are in X country which is not in N eyes" is just marketing)
Why do you say this? There are real data-sharing agreements between the Eyes.
Doesn't even need some complicated backdoors or anything it just needs to find an OPSEC slip-up
This already happened with kolektiva, unfortunately, but from what I hear they've since strengthened their security.
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I doubt I can successfully persuade 100+ people to migrate to signal just because of my political crusade.
Don't know till you try! And if you're playing the long game, you don't need to convince 100+ people -- the more individuals that join, the easier it will become to convince everyone else to make the switch too.
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They understand Twitter sucks now and it feels more peaceful on BlueSky.
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Twitter was alright up until Elon took over so I’m willing to hang out until the billionaire psychopath swoops in.
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no, there's tons of furries, like the rest of the fediverse. >.>
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It should be something like SimpleX
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has anyone tried Friendica? is it devoid of people?
That’s ironic
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Based on the interaction with the app. The features are extensive. There's no ads. My data has most likely been leaked by American companies anyways, so what's the big deal?
The thread was about Global Switch Day, whose purpose is to leave proprietary social media for ones that won’t sell your data or get enshittified. So Rednote being proprietary already makes it irrelevant to the discussion.
Even if it actually was better than mainstream social media at the moment, it would still at the same risk of being enshittified due to that. It’s just a bandaid solution, like people leaving Twitter for Bluesky.
And besides that, most sources I found say Rednote does have ads.
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How is the puppy?
As for interoperability between services… Monetization of surveillance data. The social media companies are Ad companies, and they make their money surveilling people and selling access. It’s harder to build an accurate model of a person when only pieces of data is available, and they need to have more data then the other Ad tech companies they’re competing with.
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the new cryptographic protocol protects metadata, like signal. the servers know nothing about any encrypted chats
