Happy #GlobalSwitchDay
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Anyone on Loops? I tried signing up a few days ago, but the sign up page wasn't working. Now the landing page says they aren't accepting new users.
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I like the Lemmy one, but peertubes logo looks like it's gonna stab my eyeballs in my sleep
The colors in the peertube logo are pretty hideous.
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but I no longer believe that it is possible to build a competitive federated messenger at all.
The fact that we have a telephone system that works with separate providers contradicts this sentiment. If I want to pick up the phone and talk to my cousin's puppy in New Zealand, I can do that without creating an account on his provider's service.
I don't understand why we've forgotten this as a society. Yes, it was difficult to upgrade the phone systems over the past century, but it's worth it in my opinion. I really wish we'd start seeing government regulation that says "you should be able to talk to someone on a service without having to create an account on said service." I thought the DMA would do this, but sadly, Whatsapp still requires an account to talk to people using that service. Very disappointing.
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They're horrible
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Are we claiming now that Activity Pub is the only protocol that we can use for the fediverse? I think XMPP is roughly 30 years old at this point, and I'm pretty sure Activity Pub is much younger than that. I could be wrong though.
But regardless, I don't see why Activity Pub has to be the only protocol we accept to be considered a part of the fediverse. It's not even like different AP implementations talk to each other all that well. My understanding is that Mastodon doesn't federate that well with Lemmy, and I haven't seen Loops or Pixelfed on Lemmy yet either.
I'd be happy to be corrected on any of this though, I haven't looked too closely into exactly how AP works or how it's supposed to interoperate with different applications.
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I'd like to argue that using AP is an inconsistent rule for membership. For example, Diaspora has been considered to be part of the fediverse from early on, but it doesn't use AP.
I don't really know where to draw the line. AP simply isn't suitable for some applications, but it makes sense to include it for branding
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loops is still very early in development. people need to tamper their expectations.
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Facebook Marketplace - > Craigslist
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Element/matrix aren't part of the fediverse, either. It doesn't speak AP.
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although it is federated, it isn't apart of the fediverse, as it doesn't use activitypub.
afaik ap is no hard requirement to be considerted fediverse
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Loops definitely needs more features but it's early. I've enjoyed it.
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Then email is a part of the fediverse? UUCP nets? IRC nets?
All federated, none speak AP.
