"Vance won against Tim Walz if you don't care about his lies."
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Sensible Crone for Harris last edited by
@susiemagoo Not in normal debates I've heard much about, for sure.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Human after all last edited by
@humanhorseshoes I assume you're responding to the headline for James Fallows' commentary.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Runyan50 last edited by
@Runyan50 I share your frustration with what nearly half of us seem willing to permit and choose. I also think we have to commit ourselves to keep fighting for something better.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Alarod last edited by
@Alarod Yes — and I love Big Brother because I imagine myself Big!
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Aloniaxx last edited by
@Judeet99 Yes, a good book for us to remember right now, seems to me.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Runyan50 last edited by
@Runyan50 Yes — good questions.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Alarod last edited by
@Alarod Well-stated.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Greengordon last edited by
@Greengordon I myself have not ever had huge admiration for NYT. Unfortunately, many people still think of it as the best arbiter of American media opinion. It continues to have outsized influence. When European media outlets quote an American newspaper, it's almost always NYT.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Runyan50 last edited by
@Runyan50 Yep.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Runyan50 last edited by
@Runyan50 Some of us are just that shallow, unfortunately — shallow enough to see Vance as a "winner." And the big problem that we face is that a lot of those who think that way are media gurus.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Karen K last edited by
@karenvkelly Well-noted.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Canadian Crone last edited by
@CanadianCrone Good hashtag. See Robert Reich just today on how Peter Thiel owns Vance and what Thiel and his cronies want from Vance:
JD Vance is the handpicked leader of the antidemocracy movement in America | Robert Reich
Rightwing tech lords are betting that Vance will be the Republican presidential pick in 2028. They’re probably right
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to UncleRico last edited by
@shsbxheb Yes, that was back in the days when they wanted us to imagine they owned God and religion and morality and "values," and when they pretended that character counts in a president. How the mighty have now fallen, or how the leopards have now magically changed their spots.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to MylesRyden last edited by
@MylesRyden Good characterization.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to EarthMomma last edited by
@LaNaehForaday Reassuring polling results to balance some of the other.
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@wdlindsy every liberal on twitter says that weekly, they hate red state america. I didn't say they were government officials
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Huntn00replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy A debate is not a debate if truth is not the unbreakable standard, unless the goal is see who can win the tall tale contest.
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@bladerunner "We have people say" covers a lot of ground and is therefore meaningless. All kinds of people say all kinds of things. As my 9th-grade English teacher repeatedly said, "Don't tell me that 'they say.' I want to know who 'they' are and why I should listen to them.
All kinds of people say all kinds of tripe on social media. Many of them are not who they profess to be.
I personally have seen no "liberals" on social media calling for withholding assistance to red states.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Huntn00 last edited by
@Huntn00 I agree.
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Runyan50replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Yeah, not ready to give up on the USA, but I am sorely disappointed in all these privileged Karens. What made our Country great was succeeding in the face of adversity and competition. It’s like these folks want to remove the smart kids in their child’s class so they do better.