"Vance won against Tim Walz if you don't care about his lies."
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
"The polls are all currently showing that there’s no clear winner in last night’s debate, and that actually tells us a lot given Vance’s overall slickness. If he had remotely convinced anyone that he wasn’t a threat to reproductive rights, or wasn’t entirely full of shit across the board, he’d probably be doing a lot better."
~ Robyn Pennacchia
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/14JD Vance Didn't Fool Anybody With His Slick Rick 'Empathy' On Abortion
But we're going to need Democrats to be more clear on what 'palliative care' is.
(www.wonkette.com)
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
"Claiming Trump won in 2020 remains a litmus test for Republican candidates everywhere, and Vance was not about to fail that test on a national stage with Trump himself live-tweeting the debate. It confirmed for a national TV audience that Vance remains under the sway of Trump’s cultish demand that his supporters embrace his alternate reality."
~ David Kurtz
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/15Tim Walz Lowers The Boom On JD Vance Over Jan. 6
INSIDE: Donald Trump ... Jack Smith ... Kamala Smith
(morningmemo.talkingpointsmemo.com)
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
"JD Vance is famous in large part because The New York Times absolutely adores promoting fresh-faced white male conservatives who halfheartedly and unconvincingly conceal their racism."
~ Jamison Foser
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting #NewYorkTimes
/16None of us should even know who JD Vance is
How did this meritless husk of a man end up in a vice presidential debate?
(www.findinggravity.net)
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
"Why is it important to understand how Vance happened? Because the guy is a deeply racist and sexist autocrat on the cusp of power — and he got here in large part because some of the most powerful and influential people in academia, news media, entertainment, and tech saw something in him they were desperate to promote."
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting #NewYorkTimes
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MylesRydenreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
I only (involuntarily) saw a few minutes of the debate last night and would agree that at least Vance didn't come off as a raving lunatic. But he kept looking at Walz like he (Vance) was a confused college student wondering what the heck his professor was saying and was trying hard to come up with an answer that at least sounded right so he wouldn't embarrass himself (again.)
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UncleRicoreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy I am old enough to remember when Republicans called Bill Clinton “Slick Willie”. Clinton was never any where near as slimy as this guy.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by [email protected]
"The reality is that Trump and Vance are doing what we expected. They are flooding the zone with increasingly outrageous lies, designed to sow doubt among the undecided voters still remaining."
~ Mark Mansour
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Canadian Cronereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy #JDVance is the #SeducedStooge of #PeterThiel
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Karen Kreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy JD Vance is the Candace Owens of Appalachia.
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Runyan50replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Yes, regular voters identify more with Walz because he seems genuine and Vance is a slick used car salesman. I don’t see how Vance won any new votes with his obvious@lies on the ACA and climate change.
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Runyan50replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Vance literally lied his ass off and appeared to be an ambulance chasing lawyer.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
"Ross Douthat of the New York Times had written his verdict on last night’s VP debate, and had it proofread, edited, and posted on the Times’s web site, by the time the debate reached its midway point. Impres sive clairvoyance! By then he apparently had seen enough to declare JD Vance the runaway winner, thanks to what the item’s headline called Vance’s 'Dominant Debate Performance.'”
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting #NewYorkTimes
/19Election Countdown, 33 Days to Go: Did We Learn Anything from the VP Debate?
Yes. In ways the debaters probably did not anticipate.
(fallows.substack.com)
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Ross Douthat (/19) thinks that Vance "won" the debate because he was "dominant." The framing by mainstream media — winning/losing, dominance/submission — tells us much about what's awry at a deep level with the corporate media right now. There's an inbuilt bias to see Vance as "reasonable" and "dominant" and a "winner" because he mirrors to manymedia types what they imagine themselves to be.
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting #NewYorkTimes
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Vance is, after all, their creation. Douthat's New York Times played a major role in lifting him from obscurity when he published his hillbilly elegy book. The media made an insubstantial and politically retrogressive book appear to be brilliant and insightful. Vance is slick, well-spoken but mendacious, precisely because many of those in the media who have lifted him to fame have — and cherish — those very same traits.
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting #NewYorkTimes
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Greengordonreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
The NYT should not be considered a serious newspaper. It's an outlet for the owner's right-wing agenda, as all billionaire or corporate-owned media seems to be.
"Ross Douthat of the New York Times had written his verdict on last night’s VP debate, and had it proofread, edited, and posted on the Times’s web site, by the time the debate reached its midway point.#
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
"I am also struck today by the fact that in the wake of January 6, 2021, Trump’s Republican Party appears to have successfully cultivated an entire generation of completely soulless, election-denying psychopaths, who have absolutely no regard for the truth, or our democracy."
~ D. Earl Stephens
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting #NewYorkTimes
/22LIAR, LIAR
The sad truth about JD Vance and Tuesday night's vice-presidential debate ...
(dearlstephens.substack.com)
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
"Last night JD Vance, late of cat-lady and pet-eating fame, slid into a normie skinsuit. …
This was the fourth version of JD Vance to appear in public life."
~ Jonathan V. Last
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/23JD Vance 4.0 Is Here
The latest upgrade to JDos aims for a chaotic-good character alignment. Not sure how well MAGA is going to take to that.
(www.thebulwark.com)
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Alarodreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Donald: They were always soulless and degenerate and they always hated democracy! I just organized them into a Legion!
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by [email protected]
"Vance’s civil, even friendly demeanor, presented while calmly lying through his teeth, is a chilling portent of an Orwellian future beyond Trump."
~ Jay Kuo
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/24The Prince of Lies
The biggest takeaway from the debate is the horseshit Vance was shoveling while he smiled.
(statuskuo.substack.com)