Pressure Trump to pardon the CEO assassin.
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Captain Superfluousreplied to Paul Cantrell last edited by
Demand the pardon anyway.
Republican rulebook rule number 302:
Demand that they do something that's impossible. When they don't do it, they look weak.
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@inthehands @mcnado my only concern with this approach is that if he does issue a pardon and the CEO assassin is released then we’ve expanded his authoritarian powers
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@ShadSterling @mcnado
(1) This can’t magically hand him power he doesn’t have. Only a weak, corrupt, and broken political system can do that — and that we already have.(2) If he does somehow manage to do it, or even if he •talks• about it, do you honestly thing that the CEO set who’ve been freaking out about the assassination would take that sitting down? The point is there is no winning position here for him. Even doing the impossible is a self-own.
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@inthehands tbh my only problem here would be having to join truth social
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@dekk
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@inthehands
The Democratic party exists to govern within a logical institutional framework. The right has spent almost 40 years working to undermine that structure, and is positioned to directly and immediately benefit from it. You think that the democrats going all in on post-truth discourse is going to help? There's no need to also defect from reality — you're not going to win any ground, but you will find there's more to lose. All the democrats need to do is decide they care more about people than money and actually fight.They won't, of course. Nor will they yield the ground to folks not bought by oligarchs.
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Moose Jolly Holcombreplied to Paul Cantrell last edited by
@inthehands any time you cross state lines related to a crime there "could" be Federal charges. IIRC charges don't have to be brought in order to be pardoned. So there should be something pardonable here.
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Paul Cantrellreplied to Moose Jolly Holcomb last edited by
@ReverendMoose
Absolutely! And good news: we don't have to care to demand the pardon! Legal coherence is irrelevant! Demand it! Don't shut up about it! -
@dymaxion
I think you’re crossing the streams a bit here. What you wrote here is •super• important and well said:“The Democratic party exists to govern within a logical institutional framework. The right has spent almost 40 years working to undermine that structure.”
That explains so much of what the party can and cannot accomplish right now, what we should and should not reasonably expect of it. I don’t think “caring about people” changes that equation. But separately…
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Paul Cantrellreplied to Paul Cantrell last edited by [email protected]
@dymaxion (1) I am not talking about Democrats per se. Exploiting fascists fracture lines is something for all anti-fascists to learn to do better.
(2) I object to you characterizing this as “going all in on post-truth.” It’s a deep •truth• that Trump cultivated the backing of both health executives and people who hate health executives. It’s true that somebody is getting hoodwinked. I’m saying focus on that, and don’t get hung up on logical pedantics that obscure that truth.
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@inthehands Your reasoning here supports my contention that Democrats should publicly support a progressive wealth tax. Ideally, one that is punitive at the high end. We should forefront the culture war fight they're trying to distract us from.
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@oldprof
I’m with you. I’ve been saying for decades that the marginal tax rate should asymptotically approach 100%. I am a voice in the wind.Per discussion in the replies, this isn’t just for Democrats. Political parties are •lagging• indicators of social change. Do what the right did to the Republicans starting in 2010: make noise from the bottom. Simultaneously punch, co-opt, and reinforce the party in a changed image.
IOW, bang that drum now, make the politicians follow!
