I'm building a detached garage and looking at light fixtures now.

Kyle Davis

It's a sad state: almost all the available (nice) light fixtures have integrated LEDs. I really don't want that: I feel comfortable replacing a bulb but not an hardwired fixture (thus I need to call a sparky to fix).

And when the LED (eventually) dies there is so much less waste with bulbs.

And, where I live, outdoor (LED included) electronics can be hit/miss in the very cold weather.

Am I a weirdo in this preference?

Apiary

@linux_mclinuxface no, but I bet the margins are really good on integrated fixtures.

Kyle Davis

@Apiary maybe? The least expensive integrated fixtures are the same price as the least expensive bulb fixtures, so it kinda seems the opposite.

Seth Galitzer

@linux_mclinuxface Nope. I've also been slow to get on the fixed led bandwagon. I've been replacing my fluorescent tubes with led tubes. Sometimes you can even leave the old ballast in the fixture, but you have to check if the bulb will allow it.

denis

@linux_mclinuxface i use Philips A19 (regular socket) LED bulbs outside in eastern Canada (-31°C this morning) without issues. I control them with a TpLink Kasa Wifi switch on a schedule and all is good.

Kyle Davis

@denis my point exactly! Give me bulbs, not an integrated LED array that may or may not work at -45c.

Kyle Davis

@sgsax yep. I was looking for shop lights and dismayed they were all integrated now. Give me a cheapo fixture and some standard, replaceable,long, fluorescent like LED array.