Meanwhile in ‘#antifa #Berlin’, apparently the entire world is ganging up on poor Israel.
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Meanwhile in ‘#antifa #Berlin’, apparently the entire world is ganging up on poor Israel. It’s not Palestinian kids facing a literal far right genocidal regime that deserves the sympathies of ‘antifa Berlin’. No, it’s the nuclear armed state getting billions of dollars worth of weapons from the US. Apparently the UN, queer people and ‘Palestinian terrorists’ are just like Nazis and Erdogan supporters - because of reasons. Absolutely insane stuff.
Berlin managed to have an antifa that’s pro fa
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Jackie (aka Queen Antifa) 🌹:debian_logo::linux:replied to Elia Ayoub (he/him) last edited by
@ayoub I despise the implication that LGBT people as a group are antisemitic.
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Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️replied to Jackie (aka Queen Antifa) 🌹:debian_logo::linux: last edited by
@burnoutqueen @ayoub
literally the same talking points as Israeli government propaganda. propaganda that has had a measureable negative effect on the safety of queer people in Israel, whom many now equate with "the enemy".I wish someone asked these so-called anarchists if when they equate queer people with the enemy, they're intending the rise in violence against us, or is it just a side effect they don't care about. ask them how many dead queer folks because of this is fine.
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️ last edited by [email protected]
@Yuvalne @burnoutqueen @ayoub the answer, btw, is that they haven't even thought about it, because the Israeli government is simply a bunch of lucky buffoons trying to save their own sit.
Luckily, Israeli society hasn't made the connection between 'gay' and 'queer'. So if you don't look queer, but are queer, you'll be fine.
Needless to say the idiots who use "queer bad" arguments have been homophobes from the get-go; people are capable of differentiating between "gay in Columbia university" and "gay and Israeli".
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by [email protected]
@Yuvalne @burnoutqueen @ayoub (though it is sorta correct; the LGBTQ community has fallen for Netanjahu's secondary propaganda way too often; the conclusion, of queer people bad, is wrong, as usual)
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Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@laxla @burnoutqueen @ayoub
Israeli society as a whole seems to have lost all their critical thinking skills and have gained the memory of Dory from Finding Nemo.
a majority of Israelis agrees that Netanyahu is intentionally avoiding a hostage deal, while simultaneously wanting to escalate in Lebanon.
people will say Netanyahu has blood on his hands, yet call his speech in the US a great success and "he showed to the Americans".we're absolutely terminally fucked.
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️ last edited by
@Yuvalne @burnoutqueen @ayoub 2 things:
1. It's mainly the media.
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Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️replied to Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️ last edited by
@laxla @burnoutqueen @ayoub
I genuinely want to punch anyone who thinks this escalation helps anyone. my mum told me yesterday over a phone call that they've been desensitised to fear. that they hear a nearby explosion and unless there's an alarm they don't bother taking shelter. she told me she doubts people who left will ever come back.
today she told me me no one in the house has been sleeping because of all the explosions.the only one who's safety is sought is Netanyahu.
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️ last edited by
> Unless there's an alarm they aren't taking shelter
Not fearing explosions since Oct. 7th.
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@Yuvalne @burnoutqueen @ayoub I want to punch Netanjahu, though. The good politician became a dictator. How classic.
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@Yuvalne @burnoutqueen @ayoub remember the couple that died from Ortal?
Y'know what the government did as "trauma treatment"? Literally brainwashed the entirety of Ortal into "trust the system. The system protects you. That was a statistical anomaly".
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@Yuvalne @burnoutqueen @ayoub and ever since then, Ortal, once one of the most leftist settlements in Israel, and a Kibbutz, became a boring center-right status quo keeper.
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Lahhatreplied to Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️ last edited by
@Yuvalne @laxla @burnoutqueen @ayoub
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Lahhat last edited by
@Lahhat @Yuvalne @burnoutqueen @ayoub that's where it started but turned into two Israelis ranting about the government
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Lahhatreplied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@laxla @Yuvalne @burnoutqueen @ayoub
"We are not the BAD gays, we are the GOOD gays"has never worked and will never work for you. We ARE the bad gays, we ARE queer, and anti-genocide anti-zionist queers are great and should not be thrown under the bus to appeal to the queerphobic zionist agenda. -
Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Lahhat last edited by
@Lahhat @Yuvalne @burnoutqueen @ayoub I'm sorry, what?
I haven't discussed the queer community non-existing strategies of recovering from the situation; I've simply laid the facts on the ground.
And excuse me:
- Zionism and Queerophobia are not fucking related. In the context of domestic politics, "Zionism" is the equivalent to the USA's patriotism; It's an empty word, and no one agrees on what it actually means.
- We're not throwing anything under the bus, we're thrown under the bus by the international community who really likes to call us evil, nonexisting, using their so-called ethical superiority to justify shit we actually oppose, and generalize us into evil "Israelis" and "Zionists".
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by [email protected]
@Lahhat @Yuvalne @burnoutqueen @ayoub Zionism is an empty word malicious pro-Palestinians (read: Hamas) use to describe Kahanists, so that they'll be able to call the Israeli left [insert adjective].
So, with all due respect, please, don't intervene with a conversation about domestic politics with this much assumptions and I-know-better tone.
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@Lahhat @Yuvalne @burnoutqueen @ayoub I'll tell you why I am annoyed, too. Going "we ARE the bad guys" in a country that's actually in war and said bad guys are alleged to cooperate with the enemy WILL get you under investigation for treason, as you've just publicly announced you're cooperating with the enemy - that you're the bad guys.
Then no, we aren't the bad guys. The government's the bad guys. Hamas' the bad guys. We're the victims. Thank you very much.
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@Lahhat @Yuvalne @burnoutqueen @ayoub the ability to go full Ruth Bider Ginsburg "radical social change" is a privilege we simply don't have right now.
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Lahhatreplied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@laxla @Yuvalne @burnoutqueen @ayoub
We can agree to disagree there.
I am the bad gay (not guy), and I always wil be. That's what it means to be queer, even in this terrible country.