Demanding a pronoun is like demanding a burka.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
Whatever you just said is like demanding a burka. It's performative stupid.
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What do you think a pronoun is?
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
It's like a noun, but for pros!
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Oh, maybe I misunderstood. If that's the case, I guess that's at least a more accurate comparison than what I thought they meant.
I thought they meant that someone asking them to use a preferred pronoun was like forcing them to wear a burka.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
I don't understand the whole controversy of pronouns. If a person says "Hey, call me this instead of this" that's fine. I don't have to go out my way to do what you request. If it bothers people to go against the "ebb and flow" on something so simple, then that's their personal problem.
However comparing it to a burka, then it almost seems like the opposite side having an issue with people who don't adhere to your standard. the whole argument is completely asinine because I don't understand why it's should matter and why people that prefer something besides their default pronoun get so upset about what other people think.
We as individual people have too much shit on our plate as it is. Why are you going to get mad because someone that you could easily remove from your life (because you don't like them for a possible myriad of reasons) has spited you? Live your own life and stop getting mad about how others live there's.
Now with that being said, I've never had a family member that I love come out requesting a different pronoun beside default (also i personally think saying "default" is the best way to approach it), so i can't say exactly how I would react.
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It's really easy, say your name is Tom, and I start calling you Stacy all the time, you're going to get bothered by it eventually at best
Or downright fuming at worst. It literally takes you nothing to use the right nouns/pronouns. -
Could you elaborate, please? to discard any misinterpretation.
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But if it's a requested change, how put out are you by it? It's still the same human that you respect and appreciate. And if you respect and appreciate them, you'd adhere to their request. That's what loyalty is
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SendPicsofSandwichesreplied to [email protected] last edited by
Nice b8 m8
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
Not put out at all. Even if I don't respect and appreciate them. I will use the name they want. Loyalty has nothing to do with this.
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Demanding that a person speak a certain way is like demanding that a person dress a certain way.
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Are you implying that a pronoun is an item of clothing?
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
Speak this word or I'll be upset
Wear this thing or I'll be upset
You gotta admid it's a pretty good parallel
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To use your own stupid argument, we already do demand that you dress to at least a certain minimum when around others. Demanding a certain minimum of respect isn't much different. It's called "being civil".
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No, I'm asking you what you think a pronoun is.
You can tell by the fact that it's what I said.
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People never seem to have problems with changing pronouns when it's for someone's pet
"Cute dog what's his name"
"Oh she's Luna"
"I love her!"
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So, if someone "demands" to be referred to using a specific type of pronouns, it is like forcing others to wear a Burka?
Am I getting it right?
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A pronoun is a word. I say that with 94% confidence.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
Not really, no.
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That's a large assumption, and a presumptuous demand.
Do no assume. Do not demand. Mind your manners.