So, assuming I'm not interested in answers like "neither!
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@BeAware I don't disagree, but people are clearly deciding Bluesky vs. Threads (and mutually rejecting mastodon) and I'm curious who "bluesky voters" are, what they perceive bluesky as offering.
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@gulfkiwi you might have to go to BlueSky to get those answers.
I'd say there's very few "BlueSky positive" folks here that will be able to give you the answer you're looking for.️
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@BeAware HA that's the funny part: I have asked friends over there!
The answer in my group was 100% some combination of (1) mastodon is too difficult, (2) mastodon is too judgmental, (3) too much linux, and (4) mastodon doesn't fight enough (that one is probably attributable to one or two specific friends of mine though).
I genuinely don't understand the perspective. People here are nice. Many are genuine world-class experts. And you can block linux keywords.
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@gulfkiwi yeah...I don't get it either. Hope you find the answers you're looking for, but I'd guess that you'll probably keep getting those same answers that don't make sense.️
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to Sampath Pāṇini ® last edited by
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@[email protected] Bluesky is easy to use and fun, basically (and not Twitter, Threads or Mastodon)
It does have a "the good old Twitter we all miss" vibe, and if you don't care about the corporate side of social media, it's a great choice.
I use it regularly (and I hate the Coke vs Pepsi war all over again that's happening on social media nowadays) and I like it. It has some nice features (possibility for your username to be your domain, custom feeds), I also expect it to become enshittified in a few years when the company needs to make money.
I do have the feeling of speaking in the void from time to time, especially compared to here, but some people say it's the other way around, so...
I like Bluesky much more than Threads, where the infamous algorithm decides what you get to see on your main feed (almost) regardless of who you follow.
A while ago, a youngling here dissed "normies" and I thought it was just post-teen angst, but now I know what they meant. The vast majority of the people the algorithm pushes into your feed are just not that interesting (nor that bright for most.)
If a lot of Bluesky users hate Threads and Mastodon (they don't understand the Fediverse, but let's be honest, most Mastodon users don't either) regardless their reasons are valid or not, most Threads users are unaware they even exist. -
@[email protected] @[email protected] There are a few judgmental idiots here. The "HOA" that tries to dictate how Mastodon and the Fediverse should be used, the Leftist Taliban, and a few more groups who are easy to avoid when you know how to use the place, but who give the place a bad name from the outside. The worst part being that they like it gives the place a bad name. The last thing they want is for the Fediverse to grow and thrive. They want it to remain a small thing just for them. And they're succeeding I'm afraid seeing the adaption rate of these past few months.
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David B. Himselfreplied to BeAware :fediverse: last edited by
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You're doing it too, right here.
I have zero trust in the company either, but don't diss the tool without using it. It is a great tool, really.
And it doesn't have to be one OR the other.
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@DavidBHimself @BeAware I don't disagree there are unpleasant folks here but I've never seen it as really gatekeeping and no different from the usual town jerks you find in any big community. About the only thing I've found here is a very "we will not be twitter again" vibe that tends to lean pretty hard on people who just come to fight--and I came from activist-left-twitter so I'm used to just omg hyperobsessive combat with today's Main Character.
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@DavidBHimself I think that's a very fair answer. I have sort of sniffed at the folks I know over there who insist there is no algorithm, even though there absolutely is one (with custom feeds evidencing it) that will become dominant as soon as the investors sink their fangs in.
I just never really understood why someone would choose Bluesky over Mastodon other than a deep-seated distrust of community-owned software. It's very odd.
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@DavidBHimself I do have to laugh though. Friends told me "come to Bluesky! we're nice!" Didn't take five minutes before someone was yelling at me for not being sufficiently angry about whatever was on the menu that day, lol.
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to David B. Himself last edited by
@DavidBHimself @paninid @gulfkiwi I don't need to use it because I see how they're doing things and I don't like it. It's my own personal opinion. Feel free to disagree, but my opinion can't be wrong, it's an opinion.
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Armando :rick:replied to gulfkiwi last edited by [email protected]
@gulfkiwi Bluesky offered a familiar experience (no need to know what an "instance" is) and is easy to use. Like Threads, it's aimed at the general population but has customizable feeds unlike Threads which only has one option: pure engagement bait.
Mastodon specifically, has a history of mass harassment campaigns that go into literal crimes against the infidels who deviate from the One True Way of building on ActivityPub (the Mastodon way). It keeps a lot of people away from the fediverse in general. See wedistribute.org/2024/03/contentnation-mastodons-toxicity/ -
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@gulfkiwi although I'm more interested in ActivityPub because it's a W3C standard and is more mature. We'll see where ATProto goes.
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@[email protected] @[email protected] Oh, I've seen a lot of gatekeeping, a lot...
And the problem is that it is the perception non-users have of Mastodon now. Seriously, I even think the Fediverse has a Mastodon problem more and more and that Mastodon is the main thing preventing the Fediverse from being more widely adopted. -
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@gulfkiwi @DavidBHimself you say that as if Mastodon isn’t angry, hateful and spreading disinformation & misinformation daily lol just look at the Bluesky, Threads hashtags or discussions about Gaza or AI
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@gulfkiwi @DavidBHimself Has nothing to do with community owned software, I guess you use Mastodon to escape the mass Black and Brown people since we are making generalisations. The culture isn’t geared toward Black and Brown folks it’s not geared towards poor people nor young people. It actively chased away Black and Brown people that attempted to migrate in mass where Bluesky welcomed them especially Black women. Mastodon has algorithms including anything trending. Most of the custom feeds on Bluesky are made by the community and not devs, users actually own their identities there and don’t have to self host an instance to do so.