The AI revolution is coming

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if it is fascism that drags 700 million out of poverty in 40 years and lets kids go to college for a several hundred dollars a year, maybe we've been too hard on fascism.

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i would be more pro democracy if it didn't lead to every president we've had in the last 40 years

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We talkin about the Great Leap Forward which resulted in millions dead from famine and tons of culture and heritage destroyed?

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you are, apparently - in your very nicely framed and totally fair-minded way that doesn't acknowledge your own country's crushing oppression and uncounted lives crushed to maintain its hegemony

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Don't spread CIA lies, don't lessen the seriousness of politics. Worked out better for the average Chinese citizen than whatever the fuck the US has been doing.

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Liberal democracy proudly caused the trail of tears.

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The model has no censorship. Some websites running the model are hosted in China and thus do. Use one of the thousands of instances that run out of the US or run it yourself. It's not like chatgpt or other openai trash, it's system requirements are pretty low.

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It's artificial as in fake, not man-made and it's been that way since the 70's. It's only the pop-sci definition that's inaccurate. AI has always been about faking decision making whether it is an adversarial AI in a video game or a chat bot. You can hate the overhyped wallstreet buzz around LLMs, but this semantic argument crap has just been annoying.

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You know, I used to worry about China taking over the world, but honestly they look like a much better choice for a super power than the US is now.

I for one welcome our new communist overlords.

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“CIA Lies” Now I know not to take you seriously, thanks

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Man, you're really not going to like what comes next in America's arc

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It’s artificial as in fake, not man-made and it’s been that way since the 70’s

'Artificial' isn't the part of it that's in question, lol. And computing has been around since way before the 70s.

AI has always been about faking decision making

That isn't intelligence.

adversarial AI in a video game or a chat bot

are examples of A but not I.

this semantic argument crap has just been annoying.

Agreed. Words have meanings, and while we fuck it up a lot by not understanding the meaning or by some marketing department deliberately using the wrong words to sell something to people who don't know any better, but none of that means the words don't have meanings.

Unless we're going with the whole "we've used it incorrectly long enough that that's what it means now cuz language evooooolves!" shit, and honestly, maybe we have crossed that line, but that shit's above my paygrade.

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Both can be bad, right?

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Not overvalued exactly. I believe the main point is they claimed to have used much much less power to train it, and that it demonstrates equivalent capability on much much less power.

There’s been a huge stock bubble on speculation of near infinite demand for datacenters, and NVidia processors. If DeepSeek’s claims are true, they just popped that bubble. We don’t suddenly need so many new datacenters. Demand for NVidia processors is not infinite, and their stock price is excessive compared to reality

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Now is just as speculative a time to buy as yesterday. Stocks are unstable. Maybe someone will prove DeepSeek lied and stocks will explode again. Maybe they’ll be proven true and stocks will drop much more.

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Buying the dip tends to work when the stock drops below actual value or below their peers, when there’s reason to expect some sort of regression to the norm.

We’re currently still in bubble territory. This is more speculation, more gambling. You only have reason to expect more wild swings

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It also open source.

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Sure, except in this case one isn't.

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Change happens very slowly then all at once - unknown, to me. I didn't want to go down that rabbit hole, it's 0330

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Yeah, come to China

China's psychiatric treatment for ‘trouble-makers’

Student among dozens who challenged China’s authorities to have been sent to psychiatric units, BBC finds.

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