Every.

mekka okereke :verified:

But hey, let's be clear: I called Harris, and I was wrong. Yes, I was right on all the small calls, but I got the big one wrong. I thought they would win Pennsylvania.

Harris still ran a great campaign, except for this mess.

mekka okereke :verified: (@[email protected])

A college math professor gives a math quiz to her freshman math class. She assigns the same questions to all 200 of her students. Most of her students are white. She has 26 Black students, 13 of whom are women. She has 150 white students, 75 of whom are women. Her Black women students are all on the honor roll, grade the homework, lead the study groups, and TA. She grades the quizes. She sees that every Black woman got a perfect score! All the Black men too, except 1 who failed the test. 1/N

Hachyderm.io (hachyderm.io)

mekka okereke :verified: (@[email protected])

🤔Black men voters aren't supporting Harris "enough" because of misogyny? Well, that's kinda true? In a better world, misogyny should be at zero percent. In this world, it's not at zero percent. There's at least one Black manosphere voter that won't vote for Harris because she's a woman.🤷🏿‍♂️ But be for real. 80% support. https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/113157009875882894 For a group you've done almost nothing for, and failed to defend, for over 80 years! And yes, "Slightly better than open racists" is practically nothing.

Hachyderm.io (hachyderm.io)

I think she lost the election in September and October. Don't go after mythical swing voters. It doesn't work, and loses you Black turnout. 100K more Black voter turnout in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and Harris would've won

Anil Dash

@mekkaokereke I mean.

Sia Karamalegos early voted 🗳️

@mekkaokereke I found the demographics article used here. I agree that more white women voted for Trump than Harris, but only those without a college degree. If I look at the trends and the rest of the data from the article, I see women trending down for trump while every category of men trended up. So yes, we can keep pointing the finger at white women but it's starting to feel a bit like scapegoating. We also can't know how much their husbands coerced their votes. https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/politics/2020-2016-exit-polls-2024-dg/

Sia Karamalegos early voted 🗳️

@mekkaokereke the entire country is to blame for this disaster. None of the groups are a monolith. None of the groups deserve blanket statements. My life and the lives of all people with wombs are at risk and we wake up to being blamed for the result of this election? I'm tired. It was a good argument in 2016. It's not a good argument in 2024.

mekka okereke :verified:

@sia

No, the entire country is not to blame.

The people and groups that voted for him are to blame.

For example, as a group, white women are one of the biggest voting blocks in this country. The majority of white women voters, voted for him. They are one of the groups most responsible for his election. The only group of similar size that votes for him more, is white men. Your womb is threatened by them.

Your inability to cope with this is a big part of the reason that we are here.

mekka okereke :verified:

@sia

And no one said that white women, or any group, is a monolith. No one said, "Every single white woman is to blame for Trump getting elected." That's silly.

What I said, and that was accurate, is that the majority of white women voters, will vote for Trump in 2024, as they did in 2020, and 2016.

The fragility that y'all display when Black people point this out is truly remarkable. It's a block that prevents you from doing anything to change this outcome in future.

mekka okereke :verified:

@sia

For people mad at me for pointing out that this happened in 2016 and 2020, and for predicting that this would happen in 2024 and being right about it, then you're really going to be mad about this call:

The majority of white women will vote against Black women in the 2028 election as well.‍️

I'm not arguing with y'all about this. This is not a debate. This is me telling y'all what's going to happen, and you disagreeing with it right up until the point that you see that I'm right.

Sia Karamalegos early voted 🗳️

@mekkaokereke I'm sorry but your sexism is showing. By only pointing out white women again and again. Like only white women are a monolith and have the responsibility for preventing trump. Let's ignore all the other groups in the room and put this at women's feet again

mekka okereke :verified:

@sia

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Your racism is showing. Because you act like Black women don't exist.

This "white women doing harm and not wanting to be held accountable for it" and "white women tears" complex is extremely dangerous, specifically for Black women.

Your definition of feminism is not intersectional, so I reject it outright.

I'm immune to accusations of sexism that come from white feminism. I put no value in those empty words, because white feminism is one of the most potent weapons of white supremacy.

Sia Karamalegos early voted 🗳️

@mekkaokereke I didn't say that white women aren't racist. My issue is that you're only calling out white women. Why are you only calling out women? You're not calling out men at all. So it comes across as if it's all our fault. You're treating my group like a monolith but none of the other groups. I worked hard to register people to vote this election. I worked hard to get people to vote this election. I talked to my fellow white people. And black and brown.

Heather Buchel

@sia @mekkaokereke I think it's more than fair to call out specifically white women when every election we seek out Black women and women of color to save us.

Sia Karamalegos early voted 🗳️

@hbuchel @mekkaokereke I'm definitely not saying that Black women should do all the work. They have done more than any other group. My issue was only with pointing out white women as a monolith and not pointing out any men in this post.

Heather Buchel

@sia Why though? I don't think we need to do that to reflect on where/why/how white women have failed ourselves. It's a conversation we can have without trying to make ourselves feel better about it by saying "See look at them, they also suck!" And I can assume you don't actually feel better about this, and that the pain of this election is still very raw right now. But I do think it's important to find space for talking about the groups we overlap in (white and woman) and our complicities.

Matthew Loxton

@mekkaokereke
"I think she lost the election in September and October. Don't go after mythical swing voters. It doesn't work, and loses you Black turnout."

I don't think she had much of a choice. I think her people did the numbers and concluded that it was a better bet to court swing voters or at least depress RW voters, and risk losing some of the Black and Left vote.

mekka okereke :verified:

@mloxton

I do think she had a choice, and I think she picked the wrong one.

Me: If Biden does X, he will lose Y% of Black men voters.
Biden: Does X
Result: Drop is almost exactly what I said it would be.

Me: If Harris does X, she will win back 1/2Y% of Black men voters.
Harris: Does X
Result: Wins back the voters.

Me: if Harris does X, she will lose 1/4Y% of the Black men voters that she just won back.
Harris: Does X
Result: Lost a little less than 1/4Y% of the Black men voters.

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mekka okereke :verified:

@mloxton

Explicitly, I'm saying that the people that gave her that advice in September and October made the wrong call. She should have focused on what she did in August, September and October to drive intent to vote, and fought harder in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Georgia, on ability to vote (disenfranchisement).

Would it have changed the outcome? Unclear. But it definitely would have been closer.

Jon

@mekkaokereke yeah. Also, not having a Palestinian speak at the DNC (or doing anything else to reach out ot Uncommitted).

Of course, it's complex and multi-faceted -- the voter suppression and disinfo were very hard to counter, etc etc -- so we don't know whether a different strategy would have worked out. But the strategy they chose had failed repeatedly, and failed in the same way.

I thought Ruma Romman's thread on Bluesky was good https://bsky.app/profile/ruwa4georgia.bsky.social/post/3labhag7qj72b

astroPug

@MisuseCase @mekkaokereke

I think that election result shows that we got ourselves some non-intersectional feminists. White women who voted for Trump but wanted their rights, and only their rights, protected, so they voted for the pro-choice measures.

If I’m trying to imagine them, I think I picture Boebert and Greene, divorced but shilling for the traditional family. JK Rowling.

My demographic. More than half of them are this.