In a thread yesterday, I noted that after WWII, many Americans asked how it was possible that large numbers of Germans could hear Hitler's dangerous, crazy ranting targeting minority communities and lusting after blood and still support him.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by [email protected]
"The story was debunked almost immediately by the Springfield police, but Republican politicians ran with it. The X account for Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee ran it; so did Texas senator Ted Cruz, who shared an image with two kittens saying: 'PLEASE VOTE FOR TRUMP SO IMMIGRANTS DON’T EAT US.'"
#Trump #Republicans #immigrants #Haitians #Ohio #JDVance #TedCruz #ElonMusk #BernieMoreno #lies #disinformation
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
"And the Republican vice presidential nominee, Ohio senator J.D. Vance, posted: 'Reports now show that people have had their pets abducted and eaten by people who shouldn't be in this country.' (The Haitians in Springfield are in the U.S. legally.)
Perhaps most significantly, Republican Senate candidate Bernie Moreno, who is challenging Democratic Ohio senator Sherrod Brown, pushed the story."
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
"CNN's Tom Foreman noted in this segment last night that the 'wild claim' would have been easy for Vance to check, if the VP nominee had bothered to do so. But it will continue to spread – in part because Springfield, Ohio, has seen an influx of Haitian migrants in recent years and the increase in immigration has caused real strains in the community."
~ Brian Stelter
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
"The false stories of pets being eaten, of animals being killed in parks, and of general chaos in the streets of Springfield all serve a purpose. They allow Vance, Trump, and other Republicans to dehumanize immigrants. To 'other' them. To present them as violent, primitive, and threatening.
It’s all a lie. But don’t expect them to admit this."
~ Mark Sumner
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/14JD Vance hits new low by amplifying racist lie about Haitian migrants
Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance attacked a different kind of “cat lady” on Monday, falsely claiming in a social media post that immigrants were eating pets in a small Ohio city. “
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Matthias Krämerreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy I like Reich's views. But I think of one thing he didn't get when he thinks that JD Vance, Donald Jr. and Eric could somehow continue Trumps political ways: The authoritarian psyche needs a charismatic leader, and all three don't have any charisma. Even Musk or MTG are more likely by chance of unforseeable developments to step in Trumps footsteps.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Matthias Krämer last edited by
@Kraemer_HB Perhaps, however, what well-intentioned people find charismatic is not what ill-intentioned ones find charismatic.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Hugs4friends ♾🇺🇦 🇵🇸😷 last edited by
@Tooden If by that you mean that anything he says is fine with them because of the "voice" in which it's said, then yes, that makes sense to me.
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Matthias Krämerreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Sure. It may be that I only have not seen yet a speech where one of those three created visible rapport to the audience. I only see how weird they are towards their own fans.
That could change if Trump leaves a hole in the hearts of his followers that they want to fill by any means.
But we see dictators and strongmen all over the world struggle with the organisation of their succession. There's nothing like the original strongman. -
Phil Aisthorpereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy I have always thought it a great mistake when the US changed its motto in 1954 from the secular 'e pluribus unum' to the religious 'In God we Trust'. A betrayal of the Republic.
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Philip Cardellareplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy excellent analysis, as always.
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SufferForMe 🆘replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
The problem with the word 'fascism' is that for many the word is too abstract for them. The connection to possible consequences - mass incarcerations (without trial), torture, executions, widespread victimisation and violence - remain remote and unreal, and at worst, something that only happens to other people. It couldn't happen here. Could it?
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to SufferForMe 🆘 last edited by
@sufferforme Yes — and I think this is, in part, an educational problem. The educational system in many places has not done enough to teach students about what fascism is, what it means, how it operates, when and how it has manifested itself.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Philip Cardella last edited by
@philip_cardella Thank you so much.
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Hugs4friends ♾🇺🇦 🇵🇸😷replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Has to be that. Mesmerising, even.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Phil Aisthorpe last edited by
@JSprat Yes — and, yet, the religious strain in American culture has been so strong all along, stemming from the foundational role of the Puritan colonies, then strengthened by the two Great Awakenings. It's inbuilt in American culture.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Matthias Krämer last edited by
@Kraemer_HB I think the problem is that what you and I see when these folks rant is not what many others see. I simply hear Trump's voice and get cold chills — no matter what he says. I turn off the sound. Yet for many others, it's spellbinding. (And I realize you're talking about the lack of charisma of others, not Trump.)
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Stanley Nerdlingerreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy
Just a different style of sanewashing
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Pamelareplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy They're just as despicable as him living their hypocritical lives in full view covering it in the flag of Trumpie?
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Pamelareplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Not authoritarian, try FASCIST!
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Babs E. Blue Let's Go Kamalareplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy I so loathe that MFr