OH NO NOT KENTUCKY NOOOOOO
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Oliphantom Menacereplied to Oliphantom Menace last edited by
In case for some reason you're seeing early returns in Minnesota, don't be too worried about it.
It takes forever for Minnesota to tally up votes, it seems, and like every other state, the urban votes tend to come in last.
In 2016 it took a few days for us to determine the winner, Clinton ended up winning by only 10k votes.
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Oliphantom Menacereplied to Oliphantom Menace last edited by
What is a red mirage? Is it happening now?
It’s important to wait until all ballots are counted because the swing states tend to sway both ways throughout the day.
WRIC ABC 8News (www.wric.com)
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Oliphantom Menacereplied to Oliphantom Menace last edited by
Unless there's some magical change in the fundamentals of the 2020 election, it's going to look really bad for us until about midnight (my time), and then at about 90-95% of precincts reporting, we're going to keep adding lopsided vote totals to Harris, with the current number representing Trump's floor.
I am not convinced it's over yet, no matter what the AP or zeitgeist says.
Either way, time for another drink.
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Oliphantom Menacereplied to Oliphantom Menace last edited by
North Carolina isn't really that much of a surprise.
I think NC hasn't voted for a Democrat for President since 2008.
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Oliphantom Menacereplied to Oliphantom Menace last edited by
It literally always feels like this, every time. Entirely too close. Watching grim numbers that terrify you, and you think to yourself, "How can so many people vote for this ridiculous asshole", but when it goes well you slowly get to see the results reverse--as city dwellers collectively tell all the rural (mostly white) voters--"Um, nope. We're not going to do that."
And then...sometimes that doesn't happen, and that really sucks.
But they haven't called anything yet that is really unexpected. I haven't "looked at the remaining numbers" much, but there are large precincts that haven't reported across the 'blue wall' not to mention AZ and NV (and the former, at least, still has people waiting in line to vote, right?) so I dunno.
We'll just see where we are in a few hours, like I said earlier, this is where it gets truly interesting. We're at the point where there haven't really been any big surprises, and all the same states that were foretold to be crucial to deciding the outcome are--low and behold, like science--in fact the same ones crucial to determining the outcome.
And once again, we're waiting for large population areas to report their votes last, it always takes the most time (unless we solved that problem across multiple states since 2020 somehow) and it can shift the narrative dramatically.
This is literally why I told you repeatedly you can't send a "message" with a vote. That's not what a vote is.
The "message" is determined retroactively, after the fact, after this is all over and the outcome is determined. Many people, in fact, have jobs in which this is their entire responsibility: to craft the message of what the election meant, and why the people voted the way they voted, and why so-and-so won or so-and-so lost.
But we're still, at this point, more or less exactly where the 270 to win map predicted we'd be, with the same 'swing states' determining the outcome, waiting for votes to come in, to truly discover what kind of country it's going to be for the next years.
It fucking sucks.
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Trump has 230 electoral votes right now. He needs 237 votes to take it away. Unless things change dramatically, Trump will win the election with both the electoral and the popular vote. The New York Times has already called it for Trump. They say he’s 85% likely to win. They had it at 91% but dropped it down when fresh numbers came in. It’s not over until it’s over. But brace yourself for the worst.
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@mishi He needs 270, not 237.
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Oh, thank the gods.
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@mishi Ahh, Georgia. They called Georgia.
Hmm. Dems almost have to run the table, and in particular they must win PA at this point.
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Oliphantom Menacereplied to Oliphantom Menace last edited by
A democracy, if you can keep it.
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Oliphantom Menacereplied to Oliphantom Menace last edited by [email protected]
Some of you might remember that I told you that although you might claim “both sides are the same” that they in fact pick judges (who serve for life) very differently.
They only need the Presidency and a Senate majority to do that.
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Oliphantom Menacereplied to Oliphantom Menace last edited by
Reeeeeeaaaally hoping for that red mirage to be a real thing now.
I thought I'd stay up later waiting for things to get "more interesting" but I think now I'd prefer to get some rest in blissful ignorance about the outcome before I spend tomorrow calling in dead to work.
There will be time enough for analysis of exactly what kind of fucked we are tomorrow.
Decision Desk (whoever they are?) thinks control of the House will flip to Dems? Let's hold onto that for now, because if not that's all kinds of jackbooted fuckery we don't need with the loss of the Senate.
Take care of each other. Until then, comrades.
