It's great to see the WordPress community demanding change at the top (https://wpmustwin.org/).
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Richard MacManuswrote last edited by [email protected]
It's great to see the #WordPress community demanding change at the top (https://wpmustwin.org/). Nevertheless, I am seeing a lot of people (developers especially) discussing alternative open source CMS systems — Ghost, Drupal and Payload are three that come to mind. What other software products do you think *could* usurp WordPress, or at least make a good start towards that? Because I think WP is in many ways an outdated CMS these days too — the PHP reliance, Gutenberg UI shambles, etc.
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@ricmac WordPress started with a lot of bad practices & just...baked them in. In 20+ years, they've never developed serious tools for abstracting business logic out of the theme layer, which is just bizarre to me. It's a major inhibitor when trying to shift to a new theme & has helped legitimize the bizarre notion that one should just completely throw away the entire website when "refreshing".
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@ricmac Alternatives, not easy. Quite some exist for developers or bloggers, though not many OSS CMS'es that can empower site owners and editors the way WP can (think you've already named nearly all, maybe add Joomla, Typo3, .. ?). I've always been looking around, seeing mostly proprietary systems/SaaS, heavy-investment custom builds based on OSS or UI's non-techs cannot really work with.
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@veerleverbert Great point, one of WP's big advantages has always been that non-tech people can relatively easily use it. I followed the "headless CMS" trend for a while, but while it was good for devs it typically wasn't good for content creators.
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