A lingua franca for content organization
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@julian @rimu @AaronNGray a Note could be a chat message, a collection of those is a room, a higher-order collection is a guild
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@julian @rimu @AaronNGray naturally, the nomenclature i prefer is object/context/higher-order-context
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ah @devnull seems this self-reply never made it across to community.nodebb.org
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🍀🩹一番下手・冬花 🌊🧙♀️replied to infinite love ⴳ on last edited by@trwnh @julian @rimu @AaronNGray embrace counting
a 0-conversation is a post
a 1-conversation is a thread
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@trwnh hmm.. really? I can see both, which one were you referring to?
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@devnull ah, there might be some lag on ingesting it, then
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Just a note, if anyone is wondering, that @julian and I have figured out why this topic didn't quite make it to [email protected] even though that actor is following this category. A fix will be coming soon.
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@AaronNGray @julian @rimu the user friendly wording would depend on the specific presentation. there's actually no data difference between a chat message, forum post, social media status, blog entry, and so on. you could use any of a wide variety of terms at a user level.
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I think that this actually makes the most sense from a technical point of view since ActivityPub is that common language which we're all speaking already.
Ironically you mentioned
contextand linked out to FEP-7888 which only proves my point that even within the confines of ActivityPub there isn't consensus on what a higher ordered collection would be called!@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]
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@julian @silverpill @rimu @AaronNGray a context-of-contexts? nth-order context? you're right that there isn't really a term for "collection of collections", but that's really because the collection model inherits from ldp containers, which are basically like directories or folders. you can of course have subfolders or subdirectories. does this deserve a special term? well... maybe, maybe not.
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@julian @silverpill @rimu @AaronNGray there is a tangential point here -- there is no way to signal what a collection *contains*. for example, "this is a collection of Notes" or "this is a collection of Activities" or "this is a collection of Collections" or "this is a collection of collections of collections", and so on. maybe this doesn't matter, but it could be helpful information to orient oneself...
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@devnull the behavior i'm observing is that when i make a self-reply, it doesn't get boosted by the "threadiverse working group" actor, and for some time, it doesn't appear in-thread on nodebb. but it might get fetched later when someone else replies to it...
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@mikedev proposed the new
collectionOfproperty in his recent post:https://fediversity.site/item/01ed3c36-13b8-4a74-b111-24027bcc0697
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@julian Yes, please, common names for things, please. Some kind of IANA registry for object types?
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Aaron Grayreplied to silverpill on last edited by [email protected]
@silverpill @trwnh @rimu @mikedev @julian
Interesting, will have to digest overnight against the specs.
I am fond of proper typing, but it can also get in the way if the type system is not flexible enough to express what is required.
A type system may allow disjoint unions or variants or more complex definitions required for expression.A type annotation can be used as a hint, erased, or used as an assertion.
The FEP process can allow formalization as a route to testing in implementations.
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@trwnh Can you point me to the note that wasn't immediately picked up?
I can't say for certain, my guess is if it was just a self-reply (not mentioning anybody but yourself), Mastodon won't deliver it to me, since I wasn't `inReplyTo` or mentioned/tagged.
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@devnull you were mentioned, though... not sure what happened there!
