Threadiverse Working Group

Adam Nelson

@julian Definitely interested in this, I'd like to keep Ludwig's federation features aligned with the broader Threadiverse, and hopefully we can arrive at some standards to make everything more interoperable.

silverpill

@julian I'm interested. Perhaps there should be a Group actor for announcements that people can follow? It could be a Lemmy community, or Friendica group, even a Discourse category on SocialHub (sorry, I don't know if nodeBB has an equivalent).

julian

@[email protected] not yet, but give me a week and your wish may come true

Lukas

@julian this is of interest, thanks.

0x1C3B00DA

@julian I'd be interested in hearing the discussions

Basil

@julian all sounds very promising. Hope you have fruitful discussions.

Johannes Ernst

@julian Can I suggest you gang this up under the umbrella of the Fediverse Developer Network. That way, we can coordinate documentation and community. @andypiper and I will run a session on FediDevs tomorrow where we could discuss practicalities.

Emelia 👸🏻

@J12t @julian @andypiper perhaps off topic & more the "getting devs started", but I am working on stuff for trust & safety, it's just slow because I don't get much time to work on it. (and Julian, I've your email to reply to later this week)

Scott M. Stolz

@silverpill @julian I can set one up on Hubzilla if you all are interested.

julian

@[email protected] working under or alongside the fedidevs network would lend some credibility to an otherwise skunkworks-like group.

Keeping this front-of-mind, but would likely wait and see how first session goes.

Very interested in checking out that session tomorrow as well though, let's chat.

Oliver Lowe

I'm interested. I'm developing a thing connecting email systems & clients to the fediverse. Essentially, a SMTP to ActivityPub adapter (https://apubtest2.srcbeat.com/apas.html) Early days but I'm keen to watch the space and see if I can squash any bugs making me unable to use my mail client to communicate with everyone

Ruud

@julian @fediversereport Yes please

Michael Foster

@julian Glad you’ve got this going! We’d love to discuss interoperability at some stage

Freddie_Johnson

@julian

Hi Julian, this is a great initiative. We're not part of the Threadiverse per se but we'd be interested in conversations around interoperability for sure!

AaronNGray

@[email protected]

Scott M. Stolz

The newly formed Hubzilla Association is tasked with writing documentation for Hubzilla. We'd love to collaborate and contribute to developer documentation on the Fediverse Developer Network.

There are certain technologies we would like to see propagate, such as nomadic identity, federated single sign on, and federated discussion groups/forums (of course). We can help with documentation on those topics, for those who are interested.

Also, Federated Works, my new baby, along with my company WisTex, is working on several projects that might be of interest of the developer network, such as a federated project management software, and a documentation website called Federated Hub.

Instead of duplicating our efforts, perhaps we should work together and collaborate on these things.

julian

@[email protected] +1 on all of the above.

Unnecessary duplication of resources would be unfortunate, so let's avoid that.

Part of the discussion on the fedidevs session (which I think you were in?) centred around building that one central directory for resources.

I'm not sure whether @[email protected] or @[email protected] have any specific software in mind (oooh, federated wiki? haha), but could be Federated Hub; have you got a link?

I'm focusing on getting category actors up ASAP so I can make a followable category for the WG.

Andy Piper

@julian @scott @J12t so far we've been in scrappy mode and using Hugo, but I am not opposed to alternatives that might make sense - I believe both Johannes and I are of the view that building and doing are the key elements here.

Johannes Ernst

@andypiper @julian @scott Hugo is really easy to do once set up and GitHub hosts it for us. It has its limitations but we haven’t run into them. Are there requirements that the current setup doesn’t meet?

Scott M. Stolz

@Andy Piper @julian @Johannes Ernst We're converting some software that we use internally and creating an open source fediverse-enabled version of it. The two projects that we are converting are our project management software and our knowledge and information management system, which is an advanced content management system. We have some test sites up but we have not released the code yet. I'll have some examples, hopefully, sometime next month, if not sooner.

Some of the goals of the knowledge base system include:

You don't have to know git to update documentation.
But it still supports importing documentation maintained in git.
It is multiuser.
It is fediverse-enabled (you can log in with your fediverse ID).
It is integrated into a fediverse-enabled website (social channels, fediverse-enabled forums, discussion groups, etc.) so that people can discuss the documentation on the same platform they viewed it on. (Optional, but this is what we will use for all of our websites.)
It includes basic project management features for maintaining and updating content, specifically designed for a multiuser environment.
It is re-themable so that it can match the rest of the website.
It is on your own domain name.

We will be using this for all of our websites in the future.

One of our goals is that documentation and conversations about the fediverse are on the fediverse. And this software is part of realizing that goal.

Also, since our websites will include admin and user documentation, and not all of our writers are git savvy, we want an option where the technical writers can add and update their own articles without using git.

If you are happy with Hugo, that is okay. It is suitable for developers. But a lot of our contributors are not developers, so we can't use Hugo for ourselves.

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