Over the years, my teams have made a lot of different browsers on a lot of different devices.

Jon S. von Tetzchner

My team only made Opera until Opera 12.

Alonely0 🦀

@jon how much code reuse was there over the years (i.e. JS engine, etc)?

Trit’

@jon I really loved Opera (the real one, of course), but should it still be maintained nowadays, I don’t know if it would be sufficient for me and my current browsing habits, as it was in its latest Presto version.

Opera was wonderful, but Vivaldi is even better.

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@Alonely0

We are talking about two companies here.

At Opera we used the same codebase for all our deliveries, but customized. Obviously that codebase went through a lot of rewrites and hardening over time. After I left, all of that got scrapped.

The mobile UI was written using Bream, a language we made, running on top of Java or C++.

At Vivaldi it is much the same. Although our codebase is based on Chromium, we have a UI layer on computers that is Web based. On Android and iOS there is native code and on iOS we are forced to use Webkit.

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@TritTriton

If Opera had continued to work on Presto, it would have added more functionality over time. Sadly they killed it, but that is also why you have Vivaldi, so IMHO that is a good thing.

Edan Osborne 🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦🇵🇸

@jon I miss Presto.

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@EdanOsborne

Presto was great, but sadly Opera killed it after I left.

Kevin Steinmetz

@jon I used Opera Presto. I am now using anything #gecko #mozilla hoping we will still have choice. I would love to try your browser but it is based on #chromium so I won't use it.
Thank you for Vivaldi Social and keeping Opera alive.

𝔸𝕟𝕔𝕚𝕖𝕟𝕥 𝕊𝕠𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕤 🔉

@jon Two different questions and one set of responses??

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@jon Although the poll is still live, I like seeing that 'Vivaldi Mobile' is holding court and sad I'm old enough to remember Wii having a browser. Straight up Vivaldi browser now - as you may know. Good poll, btw.

smyru

@jon When I am low on battery juice, and still need to do some webdev work I switch to Opera 12

ilpalazzo

@jon There was also Opera Mobile. I had it together with Mini on a few Nokia phones.

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@ancientsounds

First one for the poll. 2nd for a comment.

JaykeBird

@jon I had a period where I jumped around a bunch of web browsers before I finally settled on Firefox, but I did recall being a big fan of Opera (around version 10, I think). My fondness of Opera from that time is what made me so confident about jumping onto Vivaldi, and I've been loving my time with it ever since.

Opera on the Wii was such a fun and weird experience for me. I was fascinated by the ability to visit websites on my TV, it was so weird and new to me at the time... but can't say I did much anything practical with it lol.

chemistrelapse :tony_happy:

@jon The DS Browser? Still working? In the year 2025? Not really unfortunately. It can still search through Google and Yahoo (lol) but loading any https page will result in a network problem error (http only sites still work though). But still a fun blast from the past!

P.S. Not getting the Wii out, it's always an ungodly mess of cables and subsequent frustration untangling it.

#vivaldi #nds #browsers

zbrando

@jon Opera mini on my old Sony Ericsson dumb phones: what times. 🥹

Mathieu

@jon I loved Opera back in the day. I'm just thankful we have Vivaldi now

missingno

@jon I've used everything but Vivaldi Mobile/Automotive. For the latter I don't have the device and I don't really feel like I miss anything using the default browser on my mobile. However, I would say may favourite stays Opera with its MDI (which sadly has been "dumbed down" from version 9 or so to 12). I really appreciate the work going into the tab tiling in Vivaldi, but it still feels a bit clunky to use. Probably because it has to be built on top of the available codebase instead being an integral part of the browser. And every now and then I remember a neat little barely used thing Opera had and miss it for a moment in every other browser.

Pierre \ Ra-Mon :vivaldi_blue:

@jon I loved Opera for Nintendo Wii
I also used Opera on Archos 5 Multimedia device, Opera for Windows Mobile and on Philips NetTV