#JillStein #JillStein2024 #SteinWare #SteinWare2024

Ben Royce 🇺🇦

@unfinishedsymphony @Raccoon

now do trump on the topic of the environment

oh, that's funny, you won't

i wonder what your real motivation could be

such a mystery

Work in Progress 🌻

@benroyce @Raccoon Trump sucks too. I was replying to Raccoon, who was claiming Kamala has environmentalist bona fides.

Ben Royce 🇺🇦

@unfinishedsymphony @Raccoon

then why do you support trump?

either you support trump by maliciously lying with your support for stein

or you genuinely lack knowledge to understand what you are doing

in a fptp voting system, 3rd party steals from the candidate closest to you and gives to the one you dislike the most

Duverger's law - Wikipedia

(en.wikipedia.org)

i want viable 3rd parties in the usa

so i support ranked choice voting

i don't foolishly work to destroy democracy and support trump, like you are

Work in Progress 🌻

@benroyce @Raccoon We have always wondered "where were the good Germans?" when the genocide was going on in the Nazi period. Now I wonder "where are the good Americans?" during this current Holocaust. Unfortunately I see that far too many Americans are just fine with sticking with the program. They are fine with rewarding a genocider with four more years in the White House. This is so, so very sad.

Ben Royce 🇺🇦

@unfinishedsymphony @Raccoon

did you understand what i wrote?

15 people

5 for genocide
10 against

they vote

5 vote genocide
4 vote cease fire
4 don't vote
2, you, vote "i want perfect, who cares about reality"

so genocide wins

because of your vote (and nonvoters)

you are pro-genocide in action, if not intent

you are ignorant that 3rd party in the usa fptp voting system splits the left, #trump wins, and greenlights genocide

well-meaning uneducated fools do the most damage

#vote #harris

Eva Chaos

@benroyce @unfinishedsymphony @Raccoon

Meaning well is an awfully big assumption given the state of things

Ben Royce 🇺🇦

@eva_chaos @unfinishedsymphony @Raccoon

another one of these fools, when pressed that their ignorant vote for #jillstein #stein means trump wins, coughed up this moronic hairball in the screenshot below

as i say, some don't know how a third party vote splits the left and hands trump a win

but as you say, and you are right, some don't even care who dies as a result of a #trump presidency. they don't have morality. they have smug ignorant preening callousness

#vote #harris #election2024

CaliCarol

@benroyce @eva_chaos @[email protected] @Raccoon

I blocked that fool. Either a shit-disturber or a paid troll.

Eva Chaos

@jawarajabbi @benroyce @Raccoon

You can report them. I did, as a disinformation account.

CaliCarol

@eva_chaos @benroyce @Raccoon

I tend to limit reporting to gross violations like not using cw's for violence or sexual content. Inauthentic accounts- I'm not an expert, you know? And the moderation here is DIY so I limit reporting for that reason too. But that's just my personal preference. Report away!

Eva Chaos

@jawarajabbi @benroyce @Raccoon

You're not wrong. Generally, if you want to see if an account is BS or not, look in their post history. There are a lot of flags to look for, but if they have a bunch of links to a single online news source that nobody has ever heard of, you can bet your retirement it's a troll. The person in question did.

Raccoon at TechHub :mastodon:

@unfinishedsymphony @benroyce
The assumption that we are not anti-genocide just because we think Harris is the more ideal candidate is wild. Buddy, I've been anti-Netanyahu since he first came to power in the 2000s.

I'm voting for Harris because she's the only path I see to peace, on top of all the other things I actually like about her.

Raccoon at TechHub :mastodon:

@unfinishedsymphony
#FACTCHECK:

This program upgrades old #Nuclear Fission #warheads into newer Nuclear Fusion warheads, and generally maintains the current arsenal. It does NOT increase the supply of #NuclearWeapons, and newer Fusion warheads actually have FAR LESS #NuclearFallout than the old ones: this decreases the risk of #civilian exposure to nuclear elements, and #NuclearWinter.

This is an alternative to #Putin attempting to fire a #missile recently which malfunctioned and destroyed the entire launch site.

While nuclear weapons are a dangerous thing to have, and preferably should NEVER be used, #NATO keeps a supply for retaliatory purposes: Russia alone has more nuclear weapons than all of NATO combined.

NATO's nuclear weapons are only usable in specific, retaliatory and existential circumstances, such as a full-scale nuclear first-strike by Putin.

Either way, as having nuclear weapons is neither new nor exclusively #US policy, the claim that it increases the likelihood of #NuclearWar is FALSE.

Raccoon at TechHub :mastodon:

@unfinishedsymphony
Like, this isn't a statement over how good or bad any of this is, you're just categorically wrong to the point this is #misinformation / #disinformation, and IDK where you got these ideas, but I think you need to walk away and go think critically about them for a while. They are categorically wrong.

Raccoon at TechHub :mastodon:

@eva_chaos @jawarajabbi @benroyce
After reviewing, I'll be limiting the account from TechHub's end, because while I try not to use Moderation abilities on political speech in general, most of this is really intense misinformation, and some of it is so verifiably false I have to assume "Unfinished Symphony" here is at the very least a "useful" for some group's misinformation campaign.

We should do what we can to stop the spread.
- TechHub Moderation

Eva Chaos

@Raccoon @jawarajabbi @benroyce

Thanks! You're the best!

Raccoon at TechHub :mastodon:

@eva_chaos @jawarajabbi @benroyce
This is also not the first incident: we deleted a post from this person a while back claiming something clearly false on multiple levels about the Venezuelan election.

Raccoon at TechHub :mastodon:

@jawarajabbi @eva_chaos @benroyce
Cali, you should consider reporting, just so your moderators have seen it: most of us would rather see a report on which we take no action, and know what's up, than miss a very real issue we would've responded to. You can state that you're unsure if they need to look in your report.

NeonPurpleStar :heart_pan:

@eva_chaos @Raccoon @jawarajabbi @benroyce

eva, i just want to say i love how you rain fire on these trolls, just nothing but scorched earth

Eva Chaos

@NeonPurpleStar @jawarajabbi @benroyce @Raccoon

That one was easy. Ben did the hard, miserable work of bringing it to everyone's attention and there are some really great mods in the Mastodon world.