meanwhile, over at the algorithmic feed on Meta's Threads
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meanwhile, over at the algorithmic feed on Meta's Threads
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Mastodon Migrationreplied to Kevin Rothrock last edited by
So thankful for Mastodon. Guess some people see enough benefits to endure the algorithmic experience, but it is sure nice not to be subjected to it. Can not even imagine looking at stuff that is force fed.
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@kevinrothrock "Akin to the first time you experience Waymo or Tesla self driving" ... so, does this mean he was scared or why's he drawing this comparison with a technology that already had lead to the death of people?
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Vicente Perezreplied to Mastodon Migration last edited by
@mastodonmigration @kevinrothrock And worse, not knowing what beautiful random things you might not be seeing.
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@DP0 @kevinrothrock Waymos are far safer than human-driven cars. 22 million miles driven, 75% fewer accidents.
https://waymo.com/intl/es/safety/
Can't speak for Tesla, tho. Musk plays fast and loose.
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This is entirely misleading. The metric should not be comparing Waymo to average accident stats because these include bad drivers, drunk drivers and all sorts of conditions. Waymos only operate in ideal situations. So Waymos need to compare favorably to the best drivers in ideal conditions on the very limited roadways Waymo operates. The reason they don't tell you these numbers is they would fail miserably and you would never place your life in danger in one.
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@mastodonmigration @DP0 @kevinrothrock Sorry, but that's just plain wrong. Waymos operate 24/7 in the entirety of SF and Phoenix on all city streets -- narrow Chinatown alleys, complex six-way interactions, expressways, crowded downtowns. They've safely driven 22 million miles in those cities. That's 22 human lifetimes of driving.
Waymos are never drunk, never tired, never look at their cell phones. They never get angry or enraged. They always see everything in a full 360 degrees of lidar-enhanced vision.
SF bicyclists love Waymos because they are polite, predictable, and always yield with plenty of passing distance. Check out posts in r/sanfrancisco if you don't believe me.
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@mastodonmigration @DP0 @kevinrothrock Also, the stats are from a peer-reviewed paper published jointly with the NTSA, the national agency responsible for tracking statistics on traffic safety. It's an apples-to-apples comparison for the same driving areas and conditions -- they are only looking at SF and Phoenix accidents on the roads that Wayne drives on, at the same times of day.
You really should come visit SF or Phoenix and try one for yourself. They're cool!
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Such a Waymo booster!
San Franciscans do not love Waymo. They are erratic and a general annoyance on the road. Much hated.
Understand that they are not drunk, but by comparing their safety stats to a sample base that includes impared people it lowers the bar and creates a false impression.
Also, self driving does not work in weather extremes, and they stop the service. So again, including safety stats that includes weather related accidents is misleading.