Missing comments - how does it work?
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So whose give past this to LinkedIn for us
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Well, the different "instances" are different websites, each hosting and serving their own copy of the original post and comments. You're interacting with your local copy, and your comments are forwarded along to the original website. The original website then sends out copies of your comment to all the other websites that have requested updates.
If your website has banned someone, it will reject content from that user. That's what being banned means: I refuse to host your posts. Just because your posts are being routed through a 3rd party doesn't mean I want to host them.
Like, if you got banned from Reddit, they wouldn't let you post there, either. If you commented on a mirror of a post, hosted on a different website, you wouldn't expect that comment to show up on Resdit, would you? Well, that's what the fediverse is: a network of content mirrors. Yes, they're mirrors that, generally, tey to synchronize with each other, but they're still mirrors. And independent mirrors at that.
They will never be perfectly synchronized. There's no true Lemmy to reflect. No whole. There is only what is locally hosted.
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It's so cute that they put Managers above Executives. Man up and call it what it is, instead... The C-Suite
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Edit: why am i forced to upload a photo for a new post?
Which way are you posting? Mobile/web interface? Shouldn't need to add an image to post...
That aside, regarding your main question:
I think it’s very confusing when a single post appears with different comments on different instances, and have no idea how this works.
The basic reason for the difference in which comments are appearing across different instances/sites is because of delays in networking (federation) between the sites due to a variety of reasons. One of the common ones with the fediverse tends to be the software itself, and sometimes differences in versions' federation handling. In this case it's probably because Lemmy World is still running an older version of Lemmy with clunkier federation at Lemmy World's scale, which causes delays in activities on there updating elsewhere (particularly those hosted in Australia).
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Edit: why am i forced to upload a photo for a new post?
Which way are you posting? Mobile/web interface? Shouldn't need to add an image to post...
That aside, regarding your main question:
I think it’s very confusing when a single post appears with different comments on different instances, and have no idea how this works.
The basic reason for the difference in which comments are appearing across different instances/sites is because of delays in networking (federation) between the sites due to a variety of reasons. One of the common ones with the fediverse tends to be the software itself, and sometimes differences in versions' federation handling. In this case it's probably because Lemmy World is still running an older version of Lemmy with clunkier federation at Lemmy World's scale, which causes delays in activities on there updating elsewhere (particularly those hosted in Australia).
Re photo: posted using voyager on mobile, so maybe that is the issue.
Re delays: the original post isn’t on world, it’s on another instance. I did comment from world and that whole comment tree disappeared from world but not from the original instance. So it does not seem to be a delay in federation from the original instance to world. -
Well, the different "instances" are different websites, each hosting and serving their own copy of the original post and comments. You're interacting with your local copy, and your comments are forwarded along to the original website. The original website then sends out copies of your comment to all the other websites that have requested updates.
If your website has banned someone, it will reject content from that user. That's what being banned means: I refuse to host your posts. Just because your posts are being routed through a 3rd party doesn't mean I want to host them.
Like, if you got banned from Reddit, they wouldn't let you post there, either. If you commented on a mirror of a post, hosted on a different website, you wouldn't expect that comment to show up on Resdit, would you? Well, that's what the fediverse is: a network of content mirrors. Yes, they're mirrors that, generally, tey to synchronize with each other, but they're still mirrors. And independent mirrors at that.
They will never be perfectly synchronized. There's no true Lemmy to reflect. No whole. There is only what is locally hosted.
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Re photo: posted using voyager on mobile, so maybe that is the issue.
Re delays: the original post isn’t on world, it’s on another instance. I did comment from world and that whole comment tree disappeared from world but not from the original instance. So it does not seem to be a delay in federation from the original instance to world.And correct me if i am wrong, but banning a user just stops them from posting, but i thought it did not delete their post history without additional mod action - which i cant see in the modlog
There's an option when banning a user to also remove their content, albeit unless it's an admin action I don't think it would affect their whole post history beyond the specific community.
I'm kind of getting the sense as I look into this that it may be related to how Voyager is rendering the thread, as I'm not able to observe what's being described from the web interface. That's another catch in all this, the other interfaces have their own quirks in how they handle rendering things, which itself is typically related to how they work off the base software (Lemmy in this case).
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So whose give past this to LinkedIn for us
That site has no truth since people have to use their real names there.
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So whose give past this to LinkedIn for us
As if this hasn't ever been posted there. This isn't even Facebook; this is MySpace/AOL tier.
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It's so cute that they put Managers above Executives. Man up and call it what it is, instead... The C-Suite
I've never seen a business where managers are above execs in the pecking order. Is this specific to some industry?
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And people wonder why the average person isn’t embracing the fediverse
I find being able to choose my instance based on their moderation and federation policies much less obtuse than the black-box algorithms and shadow-banning of the mainstream corporate platforms.
IMO, the average person not embracing the fediverse has much less to do with any flaws in the fediverse (these do exist, don't get me wrong) and much more to do with inertia, the network effect, and just lack of knowledge or fucks to give about privacy and open platforms.
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As if this hasn't ever been posted there. This isn't even Facebook; this is MySpace/AOL tier.
Not even Myspace AOL. This is chain mail material
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And correct me if i am wrong, but banning a user just stops them from posting, but i thought it did not delete their post history without additional mod action - which i cant see in the modlog
There's an option when banning a user to also remove their content, albeit unless it's an admin action I don't think it would affect their whole post history beyond the specific community.
I'm kind of getting the sense as I look into this that it may be related to how Voyager is rendering the thread, as I'm not able to observe what's being described from the web interface. That's another catch in all this, the other interfaces have their own quirks in how they handle rendering things, which itself is typically related to how they work off the base software (Lemmy in this case).
It is not a voyager issue. Viewing the Post on world in the web browser also only shows 3 out of 20 comments
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Dad printed this photo out and put it up on work paper board many years ago. Glad to see its still acrewing new pixels today.
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You're right, this is the kind of meme Moses would've inscribed on stone following divine inspiration.
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I've never seen a business where managers are above execs in the pecking order. Is this specific to some industry?
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Forced to upload a picture is because you chose the wrong post type.
I got caught by that when I started using Voyager.
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Back when Boomer humor was at least a little anti rich/elite
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And people wonder why the average person isn’t embracing the fediverse
I find being able to choose my instance based on their moderation and federation policies much less obtuse than the black-box algorithms and shadow-banning of the mainstream corporate platforms.
IMO, the average person not embracing the fediverse has much less to do with any flaws in the fediverse (these do exist, don't get me wrong) and much more to do with inertia, the network effect, and just lack of knowledge or fucks to give about privacy and open platforms.
IMO, the average person not embracing the fediverse has much less to do with any flaws in the fediverse (these do exist, don't get me wrong) and much more to do with inertia, the network effect, and just lack of knowledge or fucks to give about privacy and open platforms.
It’s also probably hugely impacted by a lack of advertisement and corporate backing. That’s just the way it goes.
