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Naturally a planned economy under-performs an evolutionary economy.

The first time. What about the planned economy that learns from the previous one's mistakes? Or the one after that?

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Or how about you make laws that limit the influence any one person can have and remove money from politics so anyone can run and you don’t have bribes called lobbying?

Do you see a path forward to this that doesn't somehow involve doing away with the current system that allows influence and money in politics? Don't you think the people who benefit from this arrangement will do everything in their power to keep us from reforming it?

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What are your thoughts on how political ideologies should be mapped or compared?

I feel like one scale (left/right) to represent all of politics is such a generalization that most models based on it are pointless

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A lot of countries went from monarchies to democracies peacefully and are better for it.
If you want to kill people you dont agree with you are faschist.
The government is literally baby feeding you workable memes you can use to ring over the population to the side of societal reforms.
If you lot were more public about wanting to kill people, why wouldnt the general population vote for trump the third time in order to keep you violent maniacs in check?

How about you spread information about everything the current administration does wrong to sway the public opinion. There is ton of material already and its been day 1. You jerking off to mass murder is working against your goals of a better society.

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If entirety of the public sees how fucking stupid they are and if you keep reminding them constantly you will get your reforms especially since almost all of the rest of the democractic world has it figured out.

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Your fathers degree doesn't matter if he didn't researched this topic, world history is pretty big abd you can't be an expert in everything.

Plus that article has been posted to several history forums over the last ~10+ish years as best I can tell and not once has it included sources or been taken seriously by any of the historians that read it.

Proof or it didn't happen. 4chan doesn't count as historical forum.

One of the major contributors was his insistence on building the highway/Autobahn.

This was your Sentence. And it is proven false.

I never said they didn't build lots of autobahn, but it was neither their idea nor did it cause the german the economic economy to rebound. That were mainly jobs in weaüon manufacturing.

You've then linked a German website and a German Wikipedia page. I am not fluent in German so I can't read them, but they are both German hosted so I suspect some modern German biases probably apply. It would behoove any and all Germans to forever distance themselves from Hitler whenever possible but I also see that extending past reality with people trying rewrite history such as yourself.

You know you can translate websites with google or deepl to do a cursory check? Here, i did the work for you and found you an english source.
But ultimately, just fuck off for your general dismissal of german historians and their research. You have no fucking clue, but think you know better. Fucking delusional. If there are any systemic biases there should be at least one academic paper talking about that...

I don't know why you have to defend hitler this much, even in face of several linked sources with only your dad as your witness, but it's really infuriating.

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Obligatory "axis spectrum better"

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What a ridiculous position. You honestly believe that all socialists and/or communists want to kill the rich and the landlords?

Or is that just a convenient strawman you've created?

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This is such an unnuanced representation of anti-monarchism

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Practically all countries that abandoned monarchism did it during of after violent upheaval. Your frankly just historyless in your reasoning here.

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To be fair, those sentiments are also espoused on ml. Just saying...

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No, some of you are reasonable and non violent.
Communists are just fucking idiots no matter which way you cut it.

Because see, you are right now excusing stalin for killing up to 20% of a countries population.
YOU
ARE
NORMALIZING
GENOCIDE
OF A MASS MURDERER

you have no idea what went down and how it wasnt an accident. it was a quota.
There is nothing to discuss. Fuck you for normalizing mass murder and making excuses. You are literally no better than a fucking nazi making excuses for hitler.

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If you want to kill people you dont agree with you are faschist

Not even the word. A definition of fascism from wikipedia

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy

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The countries which didn't go so peacefully notably the US and France and the UK executing Charles I by chopping his head off were partially responsible for other abdications of power being more peaceful. Had nobody been willing to fight we might still all be saying "your majesty"

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I'm not a communist or a socialist.

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If it were that trivial why was public opinion not swayed earlier? The fact is at least 30-40% actually want Hitler. The rest are OK with Hitler if he actually cuts their taxes or makes them prosperous. If he built gas chambers and broadcast the mass murder of brown folks he would still have at least 30% support. We in the US are factually just garbage people.

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Least deranged anti-communist.

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I'm going to let you in on a secret: the maintenance of the empire is also violence, and also has a massive human cost.

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Lol. Liberals are deeply unserious people.

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Good Lord you're arrogant